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Aug 21, 2015 10:54 |  #4081

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Anyone here sold his d750 after getting the a7ii/a7r2. Got the a7ii now to test and going back and forth deciding if I should sell it or not.

The a7II should be a good indication on whether or not replacing your DSLR with the a7rII is a good move for you or not. In terms of camera operation, the a7II is actually very similar to the a7rII. Most of the a7rII advantages revolve around the sensor.

I could have honestly replaced my 5DIII with the a7II…the only downside was the inability to use my 24-70II and 70-200II on an a7 body, or having equivalent f2.8 zooms for the native FE mount. The ability to use on sensor phase detect with adapted lenses is the feature that tipped me over the edge in terms of selling my 5DIII.

I don’t shoot sports or wild life, but the a7II and a7rII are perfectly adequate for shootings kids, events, etc. Mind you the 5DIII has a very sophisticated AF system migrated from Canon’s flagship sports cameras…I’ve always felt they were overkill for my uses. I never fully figured out how to fine-tune the AF tracking system, and it was highly underutilized by me. I keep it in one of the pre-set sport modes (skating).


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Aug 21, 2015 11:14 |  #4082

family of minolta legacy glass from 24mm to 210mm and everything in between.the 135mm f2.8 and 35-70 macro are my faves on the a7.
the kiss figures are guarding the entire lot haha.
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Aug 21, 2015 11:15 |  #4083

David Arbogast wrote in post #17677588 (external link)
Alright, I managed to sell some more gear today, so I am feeling a bit more hopeful. I re-activated my 5DS sale over on FM - if I can manage to find a buyer and get it sold I'll order up an a7R II. :)

David-

Have you offered up a trade for an a7rII for your 5DS as an option? I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who are unhappy with the AF performance with Canon lenses out there that would be open for a trade.


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Aug 21, 2015 11:18 |  #4084

took the bike out last night after it cooled off here,whew its hot.
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Aug 21, 2015 11:30 |  #4085

Out of curiosity, how do you like the Rokinon 35/1.4?


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Aug 21, 2015 12:01 |  #4086

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I've been going out shooting during my lunch break although it can get quite hot. Good tip Carlo.

I visited the McNay Art Museum near my work. This is with the FE 55 f1.8 which does a great job on detailed shots. I shot this wide open to remove the distracting background and just focus on the iron in the bench.

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Aug 21, 2015 12:04 |  #4087

Puckman wrote in post #17677660 (external link)
Out of curiosity, how do you like the Rokinon 35/1.4?


good question because i'm gonna need a 35mm for group shots. I don't wanna go wider than 35 for a big group shot and sometimes when you have zoom like 24-70, you can easily end up a group taken at 24mm.


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Aug 21, 2015 12:24 |  #4088

Packed up and headed to the Smokies.
I'll be comparing the 7Dii + 400DOii and the Rii + 70-400g2.
Also if given the opportunity comparing the 6D + 14mm Rokinon and the Rii + 14mm Rokinon for night skies, supposed to be clear (I'll believe it when I see it) but the Moon will be right smack dab in the core of the Milky Way if my apps are correct...so no big hopes there.
While hiking I'll be toting a GM5 and the Lumix 40-140.
Fingers crossed and I'll get one or two pics.
See you guys next week.
Did catch a White Faced Hornet yesterday- stacking with the Rii and the MP-65

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Aug 21, 2015 12:30 as a reply to  @ MedicineMan4040's post |  #4089

that's one scary bug, good luck with the testing, I imagine the 7Dii would give better results being a prime that's a stop faster. Either way, want to see how a heavy crop would handle on the A7rii compared to the 7Dii


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Aug 21, 2015 12:30 |  #4090

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Packed up and headed to the Smokies.
I'll be comparing the 7Dii + 400DOii and the Rii + 70-400g2.
Also if given the opportunity comparing the 6D + 14mm Rokinon and the Rii + 14mm Rokinon for night skies, supposed to be clear (I'll believe it when I see it) but the Moon will be right smack dab in the core of the Milky Way if my apps are correct...so no big hopes there.
While hiking I'll be toting a GM5 and the Lumix 40-140.
Fingers crossed and I'll get one or two pics.
See you guys next week.
Did catch a White Faced Hornet yesterday- stacking with the Rii and the MP-65
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Aug 21, 2015 12:40 as a reply to  @ Puckman's post |  #4091

its very heavy,its a canon mount,i got it for my 70d,it works great on the a7.its twice as big as the 84-f1.4 rokinon i also have,the 85 also works great on the a7,with focus peaking and magnify i can obtain focus almost every time.i have a few rokinon samyang fast lenses and i got them on amazon on warehouse deals so for the price i think they are a great lens.the build quality is great.all of them mount solidly to either the a7 adapter or to the canon them selves.i think they are a great alternative to say a canon or nikon fast f1.4.focus ring and aperture ring are very solid and tight on both 85 and 35. I've even used the 85 with an adapter on my new to me olympus em5 micro 4/3 camera.i wanted to try out the ibis on the oly before i even thought of a a711.the oly has 5 axis ibis that works with any lens i attach just like the sony a711. olympus had this feature years ago though. i also use many minolta primes on the oly and they work great. i haven't tried the rokinon 35 on the oly yet.the lens is bigger than the camera haha. the only thing i don't like about the oly is the 2x crop factor.if it had a 1.5 or 1.6 it would be a wicked choice.it has features i wish the a7 has.sorry got side tracked on the oly haha. the rokinon is a great lens if u can get it on sale or used maybe,not sure i would pay 700+ for it as i didn't but if u get it on sale its a nice lens.


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Aug 21, 2015 12:40 as a reply to  @ MedicineMan4040's post |  #4092

wow...


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Aug 21, 2015 13:53 |  #4093

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wow...

Indeed. Incredible detail


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Aug 21, 2015 15:03 |  #4094

mystik610 wrote in post #17677613 (external link)
The a7II should be a good indication on whether or not replacing your DSLR with the a7rII is a good move for you or not. In terms of camera operation, the a7II is actually very similar to the a7rII. Most of the a7rII advantages revolve around the sensor.

I could have honestly replaced my 5DIII with the a7II…the only downside was the inability to use my 24-70II and 70-200II on an a7 body, or having equivalent f2.8 zooms for the native FE mount. The ability to use on sensor phase detect with adapted lenses is the feature that tipped me over the edge in terms of selling my 5DIII.

I don’t shoot sports or wild life, but the a7II and a7rII are perfectly adequate for shootings kids, events, etc. Mind you the 5DIII has a very sophisticated AF system migrated from Canon’s flagship sports cameras…I’ve always felt they were overkill for my uses. I never fully figured out how to fine-tune the AF tracking system, and it was highly underutilized by me. I keep it in one of the pre-set sport modes (skating).

This is the same as me. I barely use the tracking on my 5DIII and also just keep it preset in one of the modes for when I do use it.

I managed to have a bit of a play with the A7II this evening and got it set up the way I want with the buttons and custom settings etc. Its early days but so far I am pleasantly surprised by the AF. Im sitting in my living room with both the A7II and 5DIII and have kept the room fairly dark and have been focussing onto a few items around the room at various distances and then swapping cameras and doing the same again to get a feel for things. The A7II feels like it hunts more but its actually faster to lock than the 5DIII in this light. I think the 5DIII just seems quicker at the time as you dont notice it hunting whereas on the A7II its more obvious in the EVF. Either way it doesnt look like the A7II AF will be a problem for me. Ill test it out more over the weekend.

Ive also been messing about with an adapted FDn 50 f/1.8 lens and finding it pretty easy to nail focus with the magnifier set to C1 on static objects. Will probably take a lot more practice on moving subjects though.

I have a question about steadyshot though. I thought I had read that when using adapted lenses you had to tell the camera the focal length but when I go into the steadyshot settings menu with the FDn lens on it says the lens is not attached properly and wont go into the settings menu. Any ideas?


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Aug 21, 2015 15:06 |  #4095

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This is the same as me. I barely use the tracking on my 5DIII and also just keep it preset in one of the modes for when I do use it.

I managed to have a bit of a play with the A7II this evening and got it set up the way I want with the buttons and custom settings etc. Its early days but so far I am pleasantly surprised by the AF. Im sitting in my living room with both the A7II and 5DIII and have kept the room fairly dark and have been focussing onto a few items around the room at various distances and then swapping cameras and doing the same again to get a feel for things. The A7II feels like it hunts more but its actually faster to lock than the 5DIII in this light. I think the 5DIII just seems quicker at the time as you dont notice it hunting whereas on the A7II its more obvious in the EVF. Either way it doesnt look like the A7II AF will be a problem for me. Ill test it out more over the weekend.

Ive also been messing about with an adapted FDn 50 f/1.8 lens and finding it pretty easy to nail focus with the magnifier set to C1 on static objects. Will probably take a lot more practice on moving subjects though.

I have a question about steadyshot though. I thought I had read that when using adapted lenses you had to tell the camera the focal length but when I go into the steadyshot settings menu with the FDn lens on it says the lens is not attached properly and wont go into the settings menu. Any ideas?

That's odd. I have the A7II and the FDn 50/1.8. I can set the steadyshot focal length to 50 and be on my way. I do this for all lenses that aren't native and have had success with it from 15mm all the way to 400mm.
I wonder if it's something on your adapter's side that's not locking in correctly?


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