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Aug 16, 2015 11:57 |  #271

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Geez that's one hell of a view. Nice shot!


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Aug 16, 2015 12:06 |  #272

Carlo, that's pretty amazing for high ISO!

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Aug 18, 2015 09:41 |  #273

Was out at a very small wedding industry event here in Toronto by a start up event supplies business. I dropped in with my wedding officiant fiance and young daughter (the 6yr old I'm using the test the A7Rii Continuous Focus Tracking in the other thread I started). I decided to bring along the A7Rii with the 40mm pancake and just shoot a few things like a tourist would shoot - use the rear display tilted up & shoot from the hip. I am happy to report that the 40mm had no problems in low light locking on right away virtually every time. I tested out manual focus (programmed the C2 button for magnification) and it was very easy to do quickly. I left the camera in AWB and the colours are way wrong from the real colours, which were easy to correct, but the lights were really funky colors similar to certain receptions so I just left them.

Observations
- it was nice to have a tiny camera (A7R2 with 40mm)
- it focused perfectly in low light
- once you start shooting like a tourist from the hip it is a little addicting and fun
- i never shoot with Live View with the 5D3 but I can see in a reception type environment using the Sony with the tilt screen to get a different variety of shots in a more discrete fashion
- think I'm going to pick up the 28F2 and have a really light setup for a non flash reception setup
- with my experiments so far with the 70-200 F2.8II, I have pretty much ruled the camera out as a main wedding camera (never thought it was going to be), but it definitely can be used for portraits and I think will excel in a roaming dance floor type camera
- a reception with either a 35L or 50L on a 5D body with a flash to bounce or trigger OCF and a A7R2 with a fast prime for natural funky wedding light might make a perfect reception setup

Last picture taken by my daughter and 'her' favourite 40mm pancake lens (a little editing by me in LR and PS)

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Aug 18, 2015 20:45 |  #274

wallstreetoneil wrote in post #17673478 (external link)
Was out at a very small wedding industry event here in Toronto by a start up event supplies business. I dropped in with my wedding officiant fiance and young daughter (the 6yr old I'm using the test the A7Rii Continuous Focus Tracking in the other thread I started). I decided to bring along the A7Rii with the 40mm pancake and just shoot a few things like a tourist would shoot - use the rear display tilted up & shoot from the hip. I am happy to report that the 40mm had no problems in low light locking on right away virtually every time. I tested out manual focus (programmed the C2 button for magnification) and it was very easy to do quickly. I left the camera in AWB and the colours are way wrong from the real colours, which were easy to correct, but the lights were really funky colors similar to certain receptions so I just left them.

Observations
- it was nice to have a tiny camera (A7R2 with 40mm)
- it focused perfectly in low light
- once you start shooting like a tourist from the hip it is a little addicting and fun
- i never shoot with Live View with the 5D3 but I can see in a reception type environment using the Sony with the tilt screen to get a different variety of shots in a more discrete fashion
- think I'm going to pick up the 28F2 and have a really light setup for a non flash reception setup
- with my experiments so far with the 70-200 F2.8II, I have pretty much ruled the camera out as a main wedding camera (never thought it was going to be), but it definitely can be used for portraits and I think will excel in a roaming dance floor type camera
- a reception with either a 35L or 50L on a 5D body with a flash to bounce or trigger OCF and a A7R2 with a fast prime for natural funky wedding light might make a perfect reception setup

Last picture taken by my daughter and 'her' favourite 40mm pancake lens (a little editing by me in LR and PS)


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Great first impressions. I too never shot my DSLRs in live view, they're just too slow and clunky, moving AF points is a painful experience and there's too much shutter lag. Maybe for landscape or tripod, but for general shooting it's a no go. Also having the tilt screen does give new perspectives. Most of my dslr shots of my 2 yr old are from the top looking down angle. With a tilt screen I'm able to shoot eye level to here and bring a whole new view on her. Sure I could crouch or bend over, but my back wouldn't like it and by the time I went down on one knee she's probably moved to another place.

The 28 is a great lenses, focus is fast and the if you so choose you can get the 21 UWA add on or the 16 fisheye. I've never shot with a fisheye before but I'm contemplating picking one up.


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Aug 19, 2015 00:41 as a reply to  @ mystik610's post |  #275

Thanks!


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Aug 19, 2015 08:21 |  #276

wallstreetoneil wrote in post #17673478 (external link)
Was out at a very small wedding industry event here in Toronto by a start up event supplies business. I dropped in with my wedding officiant fiance and young daughter (the 6yr old I'm using the test the A7Rii Continuous Focus Tracking in the other thread I started). I decided to bring along the A7Rii with the 40mm pancake and just shoot a few things like a tourist would shoot - use the rear display tilted up & shoot from the hip. I am happy to report that the 40mm had no problems in low light locking on right away virtually every time. I tested out manual focus (programmed the C2 button for magnification) and it was very easy to do quickly. I left the camera in AWB and the colours are way wrong from the real colours, which were easy to correct, but the lights were really funky colors similar to certain receptions so I just left them.

Observations
- it was nice to have a tiny camera (A7R2 with 40mm)
- it focused perfectly in low light
- once you start shooting like a tourist from the hip it is a little addicting and fun
- i never shoot with Live View with the 5D3 but I can see in a reception type environment using the Sony with the tilt screen to get a different variety of shots in a more discrete fashion
- think I'm going to pick up the 28F2 and have a really light setup for a non flash reception setup
- with my experiments so far with the 70-200 F2.8II, I have pretty much ruled the camera out as a main wedding camera (never thought it was going to be), but it definitely can be used for portraits and I think will excel in a roaming dance floor type camera
- a reception with either a 35L or 50L on a 5D body with a flash to bounce or trigger OCF and a A7R2 with a fast prime for natural funky wedding light might make a perfect reception setup

Last picture taken by my daughter and 'her' favourite 40mm pancake lens (a little editing by me in LR and PS)


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https://flic.kr/p/xdBm​zL (external link)le_anna-9 (external link) by Paul O'Neil (external link), on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/xdHw​nR (external link)le_anna-21 (external link) by Paul O'Neil (external link), on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/xvNW​eP (external link)le_anna (external link) by Paul O'Neil (external link), on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/wydo​co (external link)le_anna-4 (external link) by Paul O'Neil (external link), on Flickr

Great shots. I never thought about, but I just realized that IBIS is great for detail shots.


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Aug 19, 2015 08:49 |  #277

idkdc wrote in post #17674854 (external link)
Great shots. I never thought about, but I just realized that IBIS is great for detail shots.

Exactly - and why the 100 macro is an IS lense - and why the new Canon 24-70 F4 with IS and a macro mode is a growing favourite amongst certain wedoing photogs in spite of only being F4.

IBIS is by far the best feature of this camera - I can take tack sharp images with the the 85L @ 1.2 at 1/20th - with the 5DSR I'm at 1/400th.

With 40+ megapixel camera any close focusing lens is an acceptable macro detail lens - even the 400mm pancake.


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Aug 21, 2015 17:30 |  #278

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I just checked my Photoshop settings and they match these. Any other ideas?

Try this:
Take one of the problem JPGs and open it in PS.
Then go to Edit>convert to profile

A dialog box will come up that shows the color profile in the image and a destination space you can specify.

The first box will tell you what the space is. If it is Adobe RGB then set the destination space as SRGB and apply the correction.
It should work just fine.
TEHN you need to go to whatever RAW converter you are using and see what the JPG output specs are. I am suspecting that somewhere, somehow it got changed to Adobe RGB.
If so, just change it to SRGB and apply the change.

Now, if your files ARE in SRGB already AND your RAW converters are correctly outputting files, I am stumped.




  
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Aug 22, 2015 10:20 |  #279

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Aug 22, 2015 10:59 |  #280

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Canon 70-200 2.8 II using AF.
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I especially like the sunflower shot from behind that way because it's so different than how they are normally photographed.


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I especially like the sunflower shot from behind that way because it's so different than how they are normally photographed.

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Aug 22, 2015 12:45 |  #282

tested out my first and currently only native Sony lens - the 28F2
makes for a small and light setup - basically sticks out exactly as much as the 40mm pancake with the MB4 adapter
i bought this lens because I wanted a native lens that would autofocus for video - and I wanted to test out the Eye Autofocus

First of all the Eye Auto Focus
- before I speak to how good it is, I will say that it doesn't 'really' work with the 28F2 because you have to be pretty close to a human to make an eye big enough for the camera to recognize an eye as an eye (no surprise here as you don't generally grab a 28mm lens to take close ups of people - if you do you are basically in their personal space
- that said, if you allow a person to get close so that it is in portrait type distance, the eye AF immediately grabs the eye - really incredible - in fact, totally f'ing awesome - basically a game changer (and I'm a Canon guy but this feature is really amazing)
- the moment Sony releases a 24-70 & 70-200 F2.8 native lenses they are going to fly off the shelf because this Eye AF is going to have wedding photogs really interested
- ergonomically you really have to assign the AEL button to Eye AF so your thumb can hold it down (like Back Button AF on a Canon)
- because of this, i really wish there was a 2nd similar type button (like the * button on a 5D3) so you could still have a the separate ability to do BB AF ergonomically (i.e. the next gen camera they really need to do a few things to make it better)
- I use to think the without any doubt that IBIS was the single best feature about this camera (i.e. low SS on lenses like the 85L) but Eye AF really jumped up my list and eventually when I add some kind of longer FL lens I will be using it

I'm not really a landscape person but I was killing 15 minutes waiting for my partner so I walked around an office complex with nice gardens to see how I could use the 28F2
- the lens is not tack sharp at F2 so I stopped it down to F2.8 for a few thin DoF shots and then shot it otherwise at F5.6 and F8
- I also tried a shot directly into the sun and then tried to see what I could recover in the scene (the red chair picture - pretty good I would say)

I decided to choose this lens over the similarly priced and sized 35F2.8 because I want to be able to use the 4K video in Super 35 mode because it is far cleaner at high ISOs so the FL will work better. Sony lenses are not cheap but of all the lenses this one for sure seems like a good value. The LR profile corrects some pretty severe distortion but such is modern technology so it doesn't faze me that the lens suffers from it.

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Aug 22, 2015 12:52 |  #283

wallstreetoneil wrote in post #17678736 (external link)
tested out my first and currently only native Sony lens - the 28F2
makes for a small and light setup - basically sticks out exactly as much as the 40mm pancake with the MB4 adapter
i bought this lens because I wanted a native lens that would autofocus for video - and I wanted to test out the Eye Autofocus

First of all the Eye Auto Focus
- before I speak to how good it is, I will say that it doesn't 'really' work with the 28F2 because you have to be pretty close to a human to make an eye big enough for the camera to recognize an eye as an eye (no surprise here as you don't generally grab a 28mm lens to take close ups of people - if you do you are basically in their personal space
- that said, if you allow a person to get close so that it is in portrait type distance, the eye AF immediately grabs the eye - really incredible - in fact, totally f'ing awesome - basically a game changer (and I'm a Canon guy but this feature is really amazing)
- the moment Sony releases a 24-70 & 70-200 F2.8 native lenses they are going to fly off the shelf because this Eye AF is going to have wedding photogs really interested
- ergonomically you really have to assign the AEL button to Eye AF so your thumb can hold it down (like Back Button AF on a Canon)
- because of this, i really wish there was a 2nd similar type button (like the * button on a 5D3) so you could still have a the separate ability to do BB AF ergonomically (i.e. the next gen camera they really need to do a few things to make it better)
- I use to think the without any doubt that IBIS was the single best feature about this camera (i.e. low SS on lenses like the 85L) but Eye AF really jumped up my list and eventually when I add some kind of longer FL lens I will be using it

I'm not really a landscape person but I was killing 15 minutes waiting for my partner so I walked around an office complex with nice gardens to see how I could use the 28F2
- the lens is not tack sharp at F2 so I stopped it down to F2.8 for a few thin DoF shots and then shot it otherwise at F5.6 and F8
- I also tried a shot directly into the sun and then tried to see what I could recover in the scene (the red chair picture - pretty good I would say)

I decided to choose this lens over the similarly priced and sized 35F2.8 because I want to be able to use the 4K video in Super 35 mode because it is far cleaner at high ISOs so the FL will work better. Sony lenses are not cheap but of all the lenses this one for sure seems like a good value. The LR profile corrects some pretty severe distortion but such is modern technology so it doesn't faze me that the lens suffers from it.

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Good informative post, thanks for posting it


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Aug 22, 2015 13:02 |  #284

Keep in mind that the button used with the AEL/AF switch means that the same button can be used for two different purposes.


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Aug 22, 2015 13:08 |  #285

navydoc wrote in post #17678752 (external link)
Keep in mind that the button used with the AEL/AF switch means that the same button can be used for two different purposes.


thanks - i think

i just do not get that switch


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