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Aug 30, 2015 23:13 |  #3316

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I can only answer for the 7D2. If I'm understanding what you want for to the purple AF menus and chose the 4th square. The second from the bottom you can set the initial AF point before it goes into 65 point zone. There are two options. One - it picks up the point from the last AF mode you used or two, it starts with an AF point you select.

Thanks for the advice I'll look into it and try it later this week. That sounds like exactly what I want




  
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Aug 30, 2015 23:42 |  #3317

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Thanks for the advice I'll look into it and try it later this week. That sounds like exactly what I want

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Aug 31, 2015 01:35 |  #3318

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They have all been cured, so the thread has moved onwards! ;)

Afraid they haven't :-(

I spent the best past of 5 hrs calibrating all my lenses with FoCal today. most of on setting the target :oops: vmad The lorikeets have just been just as the light was failing but every single shot with the 7D was still soft, both with and without the extender I'm pretty sure MFA isn't the problem as no parts of the images were sharp. shutter speeds were around 500/640 at iso 800. I'll try for better light faster shutter tomorrow. I don't know how it could change like that overnight? The camera or lens hasn't been knocked? I hope I've not got a lemon. Back to the drawing board.

As an aside, the peak focus best aperture on my non IS macro came out at 7.3, I would have thought much smaller aperture for a macro lens?


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Aug 31, 2015 22:25 |  #3319

Trying to eliminate camera/lens/user error/unsteady hand. Windy out today so had no choice but to shoot in a sheltered low light position mounted on tripod. Any comments welcome as I don't trust my eyesight but how do these look

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Aug 31, 2015 23:07 |  #3320

Front and Back focus seem Ok to me and these were hand held. I noticed that with the shots of the rosalla and sunsequent shots that were awful, that the bird table was half in shadow and I was waiting for the birds to raise their heads towards the sun so that they'd get a highlight in their eye. I'm pretty sure that the focus was bang on their eye each time so do you think the catcjhlight/sheen can throw the focus off? I'm not having any luck getting sharp pictures atm other than these test shots?????

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Aug 31, 2015 23:42 |  #3321

The 1:1 crops of the 10 dollar bill show some motion blur. It has a directional component, which is why I think it's motion blur. So:what kind of tripod and did you use, and did you use mirror lockup and a remote shutter release? With this much camera weight on a tripod, it's easy to get motion blur, even just from pressing the shutter release on the camera. Any wind or other sources of vibration?

IMO, the best way to test the solidity of your tripod setup is to put the camera in live view and zoom in to 10x. If your tripod's not solid enough for the camera's weight, you'll see it clearly. Make note of the settling time when you touch the camera too (time from when you touch it to when the view settles to being still). A tripod up to the task will settle in a fraction of a second. A typical aluminum travel tripod can vibrate for several seconds, long enough to ruin a shot even with a 2-second timer in addition to mirror lockup (if you are using the shutter button or touching the camera in any other way and not giving it time to settle).

An inadequate tripod can be worse than handheld, because it might be just stable enough for the lens to detected it and disable image stabilization, but not stable enough to actually take a sharp shot at 1/40.


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Sep 01, 2015 01:50 |  #3322

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The 1:1 crops of the 10 dollar bill show some motion blur. It has a directional component, which is why I think it's motion blur. So:what kind of tripod and did you use, and did you use mirror lockup and a remote shutter release? With this much camera weight on a tripod, it's easy to get motion blur, even just from pressing the shutter release on the camera. Any wind or other sources of vibration?

IMO, the best way to test the solidity of your tripod setup is to put the camera in live view and zoom in to 10x. If your tripod's not solid enough for the camera's weight, you'll see it clearly. Make note of the settling time when you touch the camera too (time from when you touch it to when the view settles to being still). A tripod up to the task will settle in a fraction of a second. A typical aluminum travel tripod can vibrate for several seconds, long enough to ruin a shot even with a 2-second timer in addition to mirror lockup (if you are using the shutter button or touching the camera in any other way and not giving it time to settle).

An inadequate tripod can be worse than handheld, because it might be just stable enough for the lens to detected it and disable image stabilization, but not stable enough to actually take a sharp shot at 1/40.


Thanks fopr the reply. I think the blur could be the printing? It's not too clever with the naked eye even. Assie bills are printed on plastic so not the best subject which is why I took the canister shots in the next post which seem sharper hand held at 1/40 than the tripod shots. No mirror lock up but I used a remote. The tripod is one of the more expensive benros and is heavy and solid as a rock.

What do you think of the 2nd lot of shots SOOC . It doesn't appear to be F&B focusing so up to now I've got it down to bird movement and/or too slow a shutter speed when my arms are tired. Just quicly shot these as well but they are Post processed with some Smart Sharpening in PS

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Sep 01, 2015 03:41 |  #3323

The canister shots look perfect to me. The bird looks good too, except that the critical focus area seems to be behind his head, on the greenish area, rather than on the eye. The eye, nostril, and front of the beak appear to be just behind the focus distance. At f/5.6, viewing a 1:1 crop, this is just due to the shallow depth of field. The full image viewed at a regular size, rather than at pixel-peeping size, appears sharp.

Regarding the bill: to my eyes the 10 dollar bill looks blurry in a way that doesn't seem like it could all due to the printing, even the tear and what looks like stitching (?) appear not sharp. But only you could say for sure, having the bill in hand. The last of the 1:1 shots of the bill looks worse than the one before it too. It seems to have the character of motion blur in the horizontal direction, but it's subtle enough that it too could be a slight focus miss, it's just very hard to tell.


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Sep 01, 2015 03:51 |  #3324

absplastic wrote in post #17690923 (external link)
The canister shots look perfect to me. The bird looks good too, except that the critical focus area seems to be behind his head, on the greenish area, rather than on the eye. The eye, nostril, and front of the beak appear to be just behind the focus distance. At f/5.6, viewing a 1:1 crop, this is just due to the shallow depth of field. The full image viewed at a regular size, rather than at pixel-peeping size, appears sharp.

Regarding the bill: to my eyes the 10 dollar bill looks blurry in a way that doesn't seem like it could all due to the printing, even the tear and what looks like stitching (?) appear not sharp. But only you could say for sure, having the bill in hand. The last of the 1:1 shots of the bill looks worse than the one before it too. It seems to have the character of motion blur in the horizontal direction, but it's subtle enough that it too could be a slight focus miss, it's just very hard to tell.


Thanks for that mate. I was outdoors and I think I mentioned somewhere else that I back onto a railway line so if I was that engrossed when a cattle truck went past, that could be the answer. Yeah, the birds aren't easy with such a small focus area so I probably missed, they've only got to move their beak when they're chewing the seeds and the eye moves OOField

Thank God the canisters look fine hand held. I was on a horizontal plane to them so i guess so far that it's coming down to trying to point upwards with the weight of the combo when the birds eye isn't sharp, even though it's a much faster shutter than the canister shots. I just can't figure though how I got a whole 2 days shoots "in the field" unsharp when all previous shoots with this combo were ok and when 6 shots at the canisters were all sharp.

Panicking I guess because of reading the earlier problems posted with the camera.


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Sep 01, 2015 04:09 |  #3325

The info for the $10 note shots indicates 1/40s and 1/50s. Even on a tripod trying to eliminate as many factors as possible, I'm inclined to believe this may be a factor in what I agree is motion blur in those crops. The bottle and bird shots afterwards are plenty sharp to my eye


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Sep 01, 2015 09:21 |  #3326

bidkev wrote in post #17690889 (external link)
Thanks fopr the reply. I think the blur could be the printing? It's not too clever with the naked eye even. Assie bills are printed on plastic so not the best subject which is why I took the canister shots in the next post which seem sharper hand held at 1/40 than the tripod shots. No mirror lock up but I used a remote. The tripod is one of the more expensive benros and is heavy and solid as a rock.

What do you think of the 2nd lot of shots SOOC . It doesn't appear to be F&B focusing so up to now I've got it down to bird movement and/or too slow a shutter speed when my arms are tired. Just quicly shot these as well but they are Post processed with some Smart Sharpening in PS

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I would suggest that you start by overcompensating by using higher shutter speeds and more careful attention to technique until you start getting more consistently sharp shots. 1/SSx1.6 with ISO as needed.

Then you can start to relax SS once you have consistency.

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Sep 01, 2015 12:01 |  #3327

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Recently, I've been using Case 5 a good bit for birds in flight and really pleased with the focus ... even with birds coming toward the lens. I also used Case 5 a great deal on a recent Africa safari and was pleased with focusing.
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Sep 01, 2015 12:28 |  #3328

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On a senior picture shoot hoping with no small movements (lol) I would go with One shot and single drive.


That would be fine, so long as you have a fast SS


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Sep 01, 2015 13:19 |  #3329

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Seeing these shots excites me more to get the 7DII. Great shots Buddy.


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Sep 01, 2015 14:29 |  #3330

I love mine Peter, It gets me stuff I would never get otherwise.

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