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Sep 16, 2015 10:47 |  #7261

TRhoads wrote in post #17709805 (external link)
I have a Firecrest 16 Stop ND now. Mid day, I can get 5 minutes. This example is SOOC on both, both are ISO 50, f/8. base exposure was 1/250, and a little over exposed. The 16 Stop Exposure was 300 seconds, 5 minutes, and a bit under. But it shows the color cast...that if you believe advertising it doesn't do....for only needing one filter, sure it works fine...but I don't think I would want to limit myself to only have a 16 stop...I so often use the 3, 6 and 10 alone, and combined...having only one would limit what I can do, especially if the one is a 16 stop...early morning or late afternoon you would end up in exposures that wouldn't' work, they would be too long IMO.
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Heya,

Cool thanks. I have other ND filters, I just don't think I want to stick to the plate as my only 10 stop filter. When I use my 10 stop, I generally end up stacking one of my 3 stops in there to get 13 or 16 stops (I have several 3 stops and stack on telephotos often, both for this kind of stuff and fast aperture portrait with strobes).

I don't mind color casts too much. My big stopper has an obvious blue cast to it, despite it being one of those filters heralded as having less color cast, at least it's not a super strong purple or something.

Generally I find 90~120 seconds to be plenty for what I do near the ocean and sky. So I don't need much and I don't mind stopping down to F16, F22 to get there with less ND's.

I want 16 stops though for the 2 to 8 minute stuff, to simplify the setup and make it faster to get the exposure point. Also, to be able to do ghost town stuff at attractions and places, for fun. Sometimes I do it just for the experimentation.

I would then have a few 3 stop filters and a 16 stop. So I could always have 3, 6, 9, 16, etc. But without having to stack circular filters and plate filters to get it, which is what I'm doing now, and it's just getting old I guess and I want to reduce to three filters, well, four filters (2x 3 stop NDs, 1x 16 stop ND, 1x CPL).

The Marumi I'm looking at seems ok.

Not a ton of options for 16 stops out there.

I like what I saw of "break through photography" filters, but they're pretty price and I've yet to see a 16 stop.

I saw the Firecrest you just mentioned too.

Hard to find real examples of any of these frankly.

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Sep 16, 2015 11:19 |  #7262

I would find working with screw on and flat filters to be a royal PITA...I can see the trouble there...that would get cumbersome. remember, if you go 110/16 stop screw on...composing and focusing gets harder since you can't see through them, even in Live View I sometimes can't see through with the 10 stop. That means harder to work with and maintain your comp/focus etc since you are messing with the lens more to screw the filter on...even in the one I posted...the lens got pushed and it changed the field of view from 30 to 34 mm...and not intentionally...one reason I don't use the 24-70L for LE...its too easy to change the zoom on it.


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Here was a 10 stop photo i got. was pretty happy with it. photo was taken in a little place called Wycollar

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Sep 16, 2015 11:57 |  #7264

TRhoads wrote in post #17709878 (external link)
I would find working with screw on and flat filters to be a royal PITA...I can see the trouble there...that would get cumbersome. remember, if you go 110/16 stop screw on...composing and focusing gets harder since you can't see through them, even in Live View I sometimes can't see through with the 10 stop. That means harder to work with and maintain your comp/focus etc since you are messing with the lens more to screw the filter on...even in the one I posted...the lens got pushed and it changed the field of view from 30 to 34 mm...and not intentionally...one reason I don't use the 24-70L for LE...its too easy to change the zoom on it.

Heya,

Yea, I don't mind having to remove a filter to compose, etc. I'm already doing it as it is right now, but even more cumbersome with circular & plate filter stacks. I don't autofocus anyways, I tend to simply hyperfocal for various focal lengths I use and depth of field does the rest. At wider angles, I never even look, I just set to near infinity and stop down and it's always sharp to the horizon. Composing I just do without the 10 stop. With just the 10 stop I can compose with live view in daylight even. I just shade it and I can see enough to compose. I'm sure with 16 stops I won't be able to anymore. No biggie though. Going down to one filter for the same effect, and gaining the use of a lens hood is a significant trade off in the Florida sun. I have tons of images I did with my 10 stopper plate that were trashed because when I looked later at home, the flare from sun, sand particles, etc, just dominated some shots where as when I just used stacks and had a lens hood I was able to avoid it more often. I'm often in the sun here when I'm shooting.

I generally use primes for my stuff, I do use one zoom, but it's an internal focus mechanism, so no worries about things moving forward/backwards.

I guess at this point I just need to find examples of a few 16 stop filters. Flickr has been of no help there really. I just want to see the color cast and overall effect the different ones have. I just haven't found anything useful to look at yet, surprisingly.

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Sep 16, 2015 12:00 |  #7265

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Sep 16, 2015 13:05 as a reply to  @ MalVeauX's post |  #7266

check out the customer photos link...
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Sep 16, 2015 13:16 |  #7267

TRhoads wrote in post #17710002 (external link)
check out the customer photos link...
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Sep 16, 2015 13:29 |  #7268

and probably the most comprehensive review out there from a very well known LE shooter.

http://www.bwvision.co​m …crest-irnd-filter-review/ (external link)

Reminded me about the ports on the left side when shooting with a remote...need to get in the habit of covering those.


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Sep 16, 2015 13:36 |  #7269

some fantastic work in here people :D


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Sep 16, 2015 14:12 |  #7270

TRhoads wrote in post #17710025 (external link)
and probably the most comprehensive review out there from a very well known LE shooter.

http://www.bwvision.co​m …crest-irnd-filter-review/ (external link)

Reminded me about the ports on the left side when shooting with a remote...need to get in the habit of covering those.

Excellent thanks!

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Sep 16, 2015 14:44 |  #7271


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Sep 16, 2015 16:03 |  #7272

I use a Haida screw in 10 stop filter....absolutely brilliant..
Never had a problem screwing it on after focusing and composing, you just need to be careful ..


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Sep 20, 2015 15:55 |  #7275

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