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Sep 25, 2015 13:01 |  #1

Abstract.

I used to goof off with a camera a lot more often and have decided I need to get back to it. This is my first attempt.

Straight out of camera.


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Sep 25, 2015 18:16 |  #2

Sunset/rise?


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Sep 26, 2015 06:12 |  #3

Concept of camera movement is interesting...not liking the dark area at lower right...
based on personal experience, abstract is generally not well received on this site.


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Sep 26, 2015 13:35 |  #4

chauncey wrote in post #17722203 (external link)
...based on personal experience, abstract is generally not well received on this site.

I'm not sure that's true, but it is hard to critique art since it is based on personal taste. If I offered any suggestion, it would simply be because of my taste and not because your image would or could actually be improved by following my suggestion. It may be improved for me, but not necessarily for anyone other than me. Even if I offered a technical suggestion, how would I know whether or not you used that setting to get just the look you wanted? I'm not sure "Critique Corner" actually works for abstract images.


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Sep 26, 2015 14:11 |  #5

You're correct in saying that is a matter of personal taste...I kinda believe that those that deal in the abstract
have mastered the basics of photography and are searching for something more or...those that have mastered nothing.

What is interesting is that, if you take screen shots of some images posted herein>apply a ton of blur and distortion tool work...
you can, on occasion, cough out an acceptable image. It disproves the adage of garbage in/garbage out. :lol:


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Sep 26, 2015 14:52 |  #6

chauncey wrote in post #17722593 (external link)
You're correct in saying that is a matter of personal taste...I kinda believe that those that deal in the abstract
have mastered the basics of photography and are searching for something more or...those that have mastered nothing.

What is interesting is that, if you take screen shots of some images posted herein>apply a ton of blur and distortion tool work...
you can, on occasion, cough out an acceptable image. It disproves the adage of garbage in/garbage out. :lol:

I think the abstract images would probably get more responses if posted on the "Still Life, B/W & Experimental" thread, since these types of images could be considered experimental.
While the term "critique" would certainly encompass judgements that include artwork, I don't think most photographers visit this thread to offer their opinions on abstract art.


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Sep 27, 2015 07:01 |  #7

The speck in the lower third left kills it for an abstract.


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Sep 27, 2015 07:11 |  #8

The speck in the lower third left kills it for an abstract.

Sometimes the C&C comments border on the inane/absurd considering it's not a "speck".
Ya get what ya pay for I guess.


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Sep 27, 2015 08:08 |  #9

chauncey wrote in post #17723277 (external link)
Sometimes the C&C comments border on the inane/absurd considering it's not a "speck".
Ya get what ya pay for I guess.

I had to go back and look for the speck I missed when I saw it it made for a good laugh. As far as
the photo I like it I see it as a flame.




  
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Sep 27, 2015 23:37 |  #10

chauncey wrote in post #17723277 (external link)
Sometimes the C&C comments border on the inane/absurd considering it's not a "speck".
Ya get what ya pay for I guess.

So what is it pray tell?


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Sep 29, 2015 14:21 |  #11

it's interesting to me that photography seems to be seen as being representational of life as it is. Abstracts are one thing, but when it comes down to it, a large part of what photographers do is tweak reality to fit a certain mold.

model is a little heavy? pose them in a flattering way.
big nose? use a long lens
wrinkles or rough complexion? main light on axis.

frankly, i don't see how one can be comfortable critiquing the artistic merits of a typical posed (or composed) photograph and not be just as comfortable critiquing an abstract photo or even a painting or sculpture. You don't have to have a personal affinity for the work to understand it's artistic merit.

Not suggesting that the above has any artistic merit, but that's what I came to find out.

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Sunset/rise?

sunset.

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So what is it pray tell?

looks like a speck to me. :D

probably sensor dust. i will have to check it out, and remember to wear my glasses when I'm editing after midnight.

edit: yup, sensor dust. i definitely needed something else to do/worry about.


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Oct 01, 2015 11:35 |  #12

You need to straighten the horizon :).

Interesting shot - agree that the bottom right is too dark/heavy. I like the colors.


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Oct 01, 2015 12:06 |  #13

I just finished decorating a new bathroom and spent hours going over art posters looking for an abstract that had orange, blue and white colors in it. I ended up just buying a blank canvas and making my own. I LOVE what you did here and could totally decorate a room around it. I'd punch up the colors some, but I love the fluidity, the movement the gentle curve, the fade in from one color to the next. I quite like this!!!!


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Oct 01, 2015 12:42 |  #14
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Well, even sensor dust might have its uses.

Years ago, tinkering with a reversed lens and oil bubbles, I got what appeared to be spots of dust in my camera's sensor:

Big spot on bubble:

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Big spots on background:

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I assumed it was dust since the spots were in the same locations in different frames. Then I noticed that the dust seemed to be catching the light from the flashgun and doing funny things with it. Of course, the reflection might have come from elsewhere, but it was there nonetheless.

Even the grooves from the fresnel were shewing:

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I was annoyed by all that, but I decided against stopping what I was doing to clean the sensor, so I just carried on shooting. In the end, it proved to be a good decision, as I was given one of my favourite abstract photographs:

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Oct 01, 2015 13:04 |  #15

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Abstract.

I used to goof off with a camera a lot more often and have decided I need to get back to it. This is my first attempt.

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Hey, Brian!

I agree that you have to get back into it. . For me, abstracts demand creativity on the part of the photographer........yo​u can't get away with just shooting what is there - you have to be creative and have a vision in mind to do abstracts such as this. . And I believe that exercising such creativity helps us with all of our photography.

As far as the image is concerned.........I love it!
I really like the way that the brightest part of the images streaks across the frame - that gives the image a great sense of action and movement. . That streak serves as a great leading line, and I love the fact that the leading line is an arc, and not straight. . Also favorable is the fact that the darkest parts of the images happen to lie in three of the corners; this further directs the eye toward the bright tone streaking thru the frame.

I think this would work equally well as a horizontal (with the dark side on the bottom, of course). It'd display great if printed HUGE and put on a wall that had nothing else on it!


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