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Oct 06, 2015 16:10 |  #16

As with everything in life, I always seek out mentors.

I don't explicitly ask them for their guidance, but I am ALWAYS ready to learn and be eager to try new things and experiment. With that attitude, I feel like the right mentors end up wanting to help.

Anyway, I have an EXCELLENT mentor and because of that, I had the opportunity to co-shoot the James Beard Awards in Chicago this past May.


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Oct 06, 2015 18:22 |  #17

welshwizard1971 wrote in post #17735401 (external link)
Besides, you are getting paid, with their labour, their endeavour, that's a job of work, and they're providing it for free.

No... if you have an assistant, you pay the assistant. But they are there to assist not to be tutored.

welshwizard1971 wrote in post #17735401 (external link)
And isn't it better to have someone working for you for free, rather than you having to pay for one??

No, it is better to have someone who knows what they should be doing when they need to do it. Pay peanuts, get monkeys.

welshwizard1971 wrote in post #17735401 (external link)
As for people paying being more serious than people getting it for free, well, I'd agree with that on dating websites, but for every example you can provide to support that argument in this context, I'm sure there's another one to counter it.

Personal experience having had people shadow me for free, and had people shadow me when they have paid to be there. There is A LOT more commitment from those who have financially invested in being there. A lot more attention to detail and professionalism. Why? Because they've invested in their education and value it. When people are given a free ride they don't have that same level of commitment. The same goes for mentoring too.

People who have paid to learn have something to lose if they step out of line... which at the end of the day when I have paying clients I'm doing a job for (e.g. at a wedding) as a business I can't afford to have some free rider loader stuff up or behave out of line.


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Oct 06, 2015 23:05 |  #18

memoriesoftomorrow wrote in post #17735716 (external link)
No... if you have an assistant, you pay the assistant. But they are there to assist not to be tutored.

No, it is better to have someone who knows what they should be doing when they need to do it. Pay peanuts, get monkeys.

Personal experience having had people shadow me for free, and had people shadow me when they have paid to be there. There is A LOT more commitment from those who have financially invested in being there. A lot more attention to detail and professionalism. Why? Because they've invested in their education and value it. When people are given a free ride they don't have that same level of commitment. The same goes for mentoring too.

People who have paid to learn have something to lose if they step out of line... which at the end of the day when I have paying clients I'm doing a job for (e.g. at a wedding) as a business I can't afford to have some free rider loader stuff up or behave out of line.

A mentor by definition is a person who shares their knowknowledge and experience. A person who is paid to do so is an instructor or teacher. Big difference.


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Oct 07, 2015 00:08 as a reply to  @ daverator's post |  #19

www.aipp.com.au/join/a​ipp-mentoring-program (external link)

As a noun one meaning of the word is teacher... teachers can get paid ;)
As a verb one meaning is to train... you can get paid for that too ;)

Being paid or not paid is not a determining factor as to whether what you are doing is mentoring or not.


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