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Help me decide 24-70 or 70-200

 
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Oct 21, 2015 10:34 |  #16

Springer1979 wrote in post #17754515 (external link)
ah yes that's a good idea! It's such a hard decision trying to decide on a new lens there's so many options, and of course everyone has there opinions on what is good and what isn't etc. It's not an easy decision when you're paying such a large chunk of money for one.

You have G.A.S. just let it sit for a while and you'll change your mind. Go use those other lenses and see what you don't like about em and if you really need something else.


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Oct 21, 2015 10:35 |  #17

BlakeC wrote in post #17754513 (external link)
The OP is planning on going FF and wants to use it on FF.

yes i just noticed it's an EF-S lens which won't work in the future for full-frame so that option is out.




  
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Oct 21, 2015 10:38 |  #18

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You have G.A.S. just let it sit for a while and you'll change your mind. Go use those other lenses and see what you don't like about em and if you really need something else.

Yes I absolutely do! haha. what I don't like is carrying so many lenses when I head out for a weekend at the lake etc because I never know what I'll be shooting (clearly I'm an indecisive person!haha). I'd like to reduce the amount of lenses I need/use by getting one's that cover a wide focal range. The only prime I use that I have is an 85mm 1.8 and I will keep it but I prefer zooms for everyday shooting.




  
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Oct 21, 2015 10:39 |  #19

BlakeC wrote in post #17754513 (external link)
The OP is planning on going FF and wants to use it on FF.

"I'm not in the market for a full frame yet ..."

I always buy for what I have and not for what I 'might' have. A years worth of more better use is well worth the $800+ bucks opposed to the $1800+ of the 24-70 f2.8.
The OP may keep his Rebel, too. If he sells it, he can sell the lens, too!


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Oct 21, 2015 10:47 |  #20

Springer1979 wrote in post #17754523 (external link)
Yes I absolutely do! haha. what I don't like is carrying so many lenses when I head out for a weekend at the lake etc because I never know what I'll be shooting (clearly I'm an indecisive person!haha). I'd like to reduce the amount of lenses I need/use by getting one's that cover a wide focal range. The only prime I use that I have is an 85mm 1.8 and I will keep it but I prefer zooms for everyday shooting.

With your indecisiveness, I would def buy used. You can normally resell used for close to what you paid. Like ebiggs said, you could buy for your use now and resell later. You may even decide not to go FF. after more research you may decide you dont need FF. In that case, you could get a Canon,Sigma, or Tamron 17-5X 2.8 used. I picked up a used Sigma 17-50 2.8 for $300. Great lens at a fraction of the Canon price!

For a weekend at the lake, I would choose either the 18-135 or 55-250 (whichever focal range you prefer). Then grab the 10-18, just because you can get some fun shots with that at a lake. If it were me, I'd choose the 55-250.


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Oct 21, 2015 11:27 |  #21

if you are thinking about it...here ya go! :-P
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Oct 21, 2015 12:13 |  #22

Inevitably, if you ask about opinions of two lenses people will add an entirely separate lens for consideration. Sheesh.

The 24-70mm f2.8L II is hands down the better choice for you at this time. It's a decent range for your current body and this will extend when you go to full frame. And the IQ is excellent, there isn't much EF-S glass that can compare. It's a smart choice to begin to prepare for the move with your lenses, I wouldn't consider any of the EF-S equivalent lenses mentioned. Stepping up to a good lens that will serve you in the future will not cripple your hobby today.




  
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Oct 21, 2015 13:20 |  #23

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Ok so I'm a hobbyist. I take pics of everything from bugs to flowers to people/kids to landscape.
I have a Canon t6s
I am currently able to buy one of the 2 lenses I've been wanting for awhile.
Canon 24-70mm f2.8L II USM
Canon 70-300mm f 2.8L IS
My question is which would you buy if you could only afford one right now (and couldn't afford the other for a year) and why?
I'm not in the market for a full frame yet buy will eventually be buying one next year so not sure if one of these lenses would be better with a crop or not and why.
Also what about the other brands of these lenses that may be slightly cheaper that might also be an option?

One thing really to keep in mind:

There will be package deals when you decide to purchase a 6D, a 5D3 or whatever full frame is then available to you price wise.

I bought my 5D3 directly from Canon packaged witrh the 70-200 f/2.8 IS II and it saved me quite a bit of money.

The 6D has a nice package with the 24-70 f/4 IS - a very nice lens that I recently rented (IQ similar to the 24-105 that I own).

Another thing:

You seem to have a very good set of lenses designed for your current crop camera. Other than GAS or available funds, I have not heard any reason to replace/upgrade any of those lenses except that someday next year you will plan on getting a full frame.

Get the full frame first - with a kit lens. The kit lens could be a 24-105, a 24-70 f/4 IS or maybe even a 70-200 f/2.8 IS II as I got. Whatever lens that comes with it can be sold by you (liklely for a profit) without losing any money if you do not like it.

In the meantime, the lenses you have are fine for your camera and for a non-professional. (And I think they are fine for many professional applications as well!)




  
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Oct 21, 2015 18:39 |  #24

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One thing really to keep in mind:

There will be package deals when you decide to purchase a 6D, a 5D3 or whatever full frame is then available to you price wise.

I bought my 5D3 directly from Canon packaged witrh the 70-200 f/2.8 IS II and it saved me quite a bit of money.

The 6D has a nice package with the 24-70 f/4 IS - a very nice lens that I recently rented (IQ similar to the 24-105 that I own).

Another thing:

You seem to have a very good set of lenses designed for your current crop camera. Other than GAS or available funds, I have not heard any reason to replace/upgrade any of those lenses except that someday next year you will plan on getting a full frame.

Get the full frame first - with a kit lens. The kit lens could be a 24-105, a 24-70 f/4 IS or maybe even a 70-200 f/2.8 IS II as I got. Whatever lens that comes with it can be sold by you (liklely for a profit) without losing any money if you do not like it.

In the meantime, the lenses you have are fine for your camera and for a non-professional. (And I think they are fine for many professional applications as well!)

This is excellent advice ^^. I have all the lens you own and all the ones you want.
Blake nailed the 24-105L (which I also have) " I know many ppl who love it and use it often. It also comes as a "kit lens" with several lenses. I have also heard many ppl say its not that great when they compare it to a 24-70 or 70-200. "The sharpness and contrast is lacking" That is also my experience with the 24-105.
It really depends on what you are shooting. The 24-70 2.8LII is amazing as well as the 70-200 2.8ISL II. Just look through some of your pics and see what focal length you tend to shoot at more and go with that first. A 6D or a 5Dmk3 will make a large difference for you as well. Go through canon price watch and check into camera canada the exchange rate is great right now. I have bought many items including my 5DsR through them




  
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Oct 21, 2015 18:41 |  #25

I currently have the 24-70 v1 2.8 which is amazing... to me, there is no need to pay the extra money for a v2, just seems like a waste... I am getting out of photography soon, so probably going to be selling it soon. Ill be sad to see it go




  
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Oct 21, 2015 19:04 |  #26

imback wrote in post #17755090 (external link)
I currently have the 24-70 v1 2.8 which is amazing... to me, there is no need to pay the extra money for a v2, just seems like a waste... I am getting out of photography soon, so probably going to be selling it soon. Ill be sad to see it go

I disagree. I had the 24-70v1 and at least my copy was completely lackluster. My 24-105L is superior to my past one. Couldn't sell it fast enough




  
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Oct 21, 2015 19:45 |  #27

how are the current lenses holding you back from what you want to do...the two you're picking between are entirely different

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yes i just noticed it's an EF-S lens which won't work in the future for full-frame so that option is out.

buy used, sell used...you'll be out a little, or gain a little...at the end of the day one of the 17-5Xf2.8 stabilized lenses probably makes the most sense, is a lot cheaper, and you can probably swing a 70-200f2.8 as well at the same time all for less the price of the 24-70II


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Oct 21, 2015 19:47 |  #28

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I currently have the 24-70 v1 2.8 which is amazing...

It was good, and a go-to lens for many PJs and wedding shooters for a long time, but as sensors have gotten denser and new lenses have been made sharper and more highly corrected to keep up, it's fallen out of favor. The mkII is noticeably better all around on current bodies.


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Oct 21, 2015 19:55 |  #29

Seems like you have a great lens line-up for your current body.


If you are fixed on FF then I would go for the body now and start shooting it with your two EF lenses. Then next year when you are ready to spend more $$ you will know what lens you want...wider than 50mm or longer than 85mm.


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Oct 21, 2015 20:12 |  #30

Springer1979 wrote in post #17754013 (external link)
Ok so I'm a hobbyist. I take pics of everything from bugs to flowers to people/kids to landscape.
I have a Canon t6s. I am currently able to buy one of the 2 lenses I've been wanting for awhile.?

There is an important question that needs to be answered in order to give useful advice here:

Why do you want the two lenses you've identified?

Is there a lump sum burning a hole in your pocket? Gear lust? Or is this a careful need-driven purchase, i.e. you've specifically identified what you aren't getting from your current lenses and know that these two L lenses will deliver it. You used some criteria to have narrowed things down to 2 lenses, can you share with us your criteria and reasoning?

Looking at your current lenses, I can't imagine too many situations that could not be covered. What I'd be most longing to add if I had your kit would be one of the wide angle IS primes (24/2.8 IS, 28/2.8 IS, 35/2 IS) for indoor people shots.


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