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Oct 21, 2015 13:38 |  #16

the one above is so red




  
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Oct 21, 2015 15:04 |  #17

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It is an art form. My first set of senior shots was with my daughter, and I cringe now when I go back to look at them.

I have done several with others since, and each time, things get better. I create a little checklist of things to consider and refer to it from time to time to make sure I am on target.

The best sets are those where both the subject and the shooter are having fun with each other. :)

It was most definitely harder than what I was used to, but stepping out of my comfort zone has stoked the creative flames again, which is always a good thing. I am hoping to start doing more shots like this, even if it is just for the experience.

In the 30+ years that I have used a camera, I can probably count on one hand the number of times I have had to do anything like this when they were not just simple snapshots of family or friends. I had a game plan in mind, just these few shots near the lake took me out of my plan, and the lack of experience and mental focus caught me. Hopefully, the next time I shoot something like this I will remember to check the basics for every shot, not just the ones that I have pre-planned in my head.

This experience has also forced me to get more familiar with LR's editing capabilities as I don't have PS on my work laptop where I am playing with things.

Here is the most recent edit that I knocked out while at lunch...


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Oct 21, 2015 18:39 |  #18

Definitely an improvement! Lookin' good....


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Oct 21, 2015 20:41 |  #19

my 2 cents ;-)a a few min in PS


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Oct 21, 2015 22:31 |  #20

Here's something a little different.


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Oct 21, 2015 22:50 |  #21

Also, don't forget about conversions to black and white, some portraits are really great in B&W.


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Oct 22, 2015 02:01 |  #22

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I missed the compression factor in that reply, sorry about that.

Actually, there is no such thing as "compression" when shooting with long lenses. Telephoto compression is a myth. If you took the same shot from the same spot with a short lens, and cropped it so that things were framed the same way a long-lens shot would frame them, they will be the same, all else being equal.
Longer lenses don't give "a different perspective"......in fact, the only thing that gives a different perspective is, well, a different perspective (POV).


"Your" and "you're" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"They're", "their", and "there" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"Fare" and "fair" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one. The proper expression is "moot point", NOT "mute point".

  
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Oct 22, 2015 04:34 |  #23

Yes I had read that before and didn't want to get into that here. I assumed he really meant to go with a longer zoom and greater distance to get rid of any wide angle distortion if the father was close to his son, and left it at that. Although at 70mm, there should have been no noticeable distortion anyways.


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Oct 22, 2015 07:58 |  #24

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Also, don't forget about conversions to black and white, some portraits are really great in B&W.
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I do like it in B&W.

Even if my wife does not, I may convert a copy to B&W to hang in my office at work.


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Oct 22, 2015 08:02 |  #25

Tom Reichner wrote in post #17755449 (external link)
Actually, there is no such thing as "compression" when shooting with long lenses. Telephoto compression is a myth. If you took the same shot from the same spot with a short lens, and cropped it so that things were framed the same way a long-lens shot would frame them, they will be the same, all else being equal.
Longer lenses don't give "a different perspective"......in fact, the only thing that gives a different perspective is, well, a different perspective (POV).

I wasn't saying to stand in the same spot. I said "zoom in more and stand further away to get the same amount of subject in frame." I said nothing about cropping.


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Oct 22, 2015 08:08 |  #26

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I do like it in B&W.

Even if my wife does not, I may convert a copy to B&W to hang in my office at work.

Every photo I edit, I have a custom BW action that I run it through so I get color and BW of everything. You never know! Most things look great in BW. Just bump up the contrast and tweak the highlights some. Fall color photos are the only ones I dont really like in BW. Kinda defeats the point of the fall photos. lol


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Oct 22, 2015 08:23 |  #27

BlakeC wrote in post #17755641 (external link)
Every photo I edit, I have a custom BW action that I run it through so I get color and BW of everything. You never know! Most things look great in BW. Just bump up the contrast and tweak the highlights some. Fall color photos are the only ones I dont really like in BW. Kinda defeats the point of the fall photos. lol

Yes, I think I agree. :D


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Oct 22, 2015 10:10 |  #28

BlakeC wrote in post #17755635 (external link)
I wasn't saying to stand in the same spot. I said "zoom in more and stand further away to get the same amount of subject in frame." I said nothing about cropping.

Right. I never thought you did say any of those things. You never mentioned telephoto compression, either.You simply suggested shooting with a longer focal length, which was good advice.

EDIT: Whoops, I was wrong. In a later post you did mention compression. "Compress it better" was, I think, the phrase used. But overall you give really good advice, especially when you suggest to have the subject stand further from the background vegetation.


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Oct 22, 2015 13:29 |  #29

Final thoughts?


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Oct 22, 2015 13:33 |  #30

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Looks good.
Keep asking and someone will always point out something to change. Everyone has their own preferences. I don't prefer the overly bright images that some have posted in this thread. I prefer mine. So if you like it, then that's all that matters.


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