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Oct 22, 2015 14:13 |  #16

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I could see that being a good kit.

My next step is analyzing all my wide shots which since on crop would be a FF equivalent of 19mm-23mm and see if 24mm would of worked out or not. Trying to hash out if I need the 15-30 or if the 24-70 would be the best bet. The 24-70 is lighter. Just gotta see if I think it'll be wide enough.

Disney is perfect for an UWA lens. Every night shot on a tripod was with my 16-35 in August and October. The 24-70 is a great walk around for during the day.

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Oct 22, 2015 14:17 |  #17

Talley wrote in post #17756052 (external link)
I could see that being a good kit.

My next step is analyzing all my wide shots which since on crop would be a FF equivalent of 19mm-23mm and see if 24mm would of worked out or not. Trying to hash out if I need the 15-30 or if the 24-70 would be the best bet. The 24-70 is lighter. Just gotta see if I think it'll be wide enough.

The ultra wide can be really nice depending on what you're trying to get. Front line parade, coaster shots, anything you're trying to suck the environment in with. Love my 35/1.4 as well on my X-T1. Here's a few from past trips.

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Oct 22, 2015 14:39 |  #18

I would bring a main body, one WA/UWA prime, one standard zoom, and one normal fast prime. Not sure I would want to bother with a flash, not so much because of size/weight, but I would feel like it would be distracting to others around you with a flash going off.

Also for me, any type of amusement park is more for the kids than yourself so I'm walking around with the kids, buying food/gifts, taking pictures. I'm certainly not going on any rides, unless your kids are older and want to go on rides with you. The extent of a ride for me is possibly the tea cup ride or the merry go round with my daughter, but then again my oldest is only 2.5. Maybe if your kids are older and want to go on the rides.

For me presently I would take my a7rII, my 28, 24-70, 28, and 55 (like WA prime, one standard zoom, and one fast prime). Maybe if you're going on the safari a 70-200 or telephoto. I'm seriously considering going back to a DSLR and if I did I would pack all of the above in a pack that's easily accessible like a Mindshift Rotation 180 or my f-stop Gear Kenti.


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Oct 22, 2015 14:56 |  #19

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.......... Not sure I would want to bother with a flash, not so much because of size/weight, but I would feel like it would be distracting to others around you with a flash going off.

Also for me, any type of amusement park is more for the kids than yourself so I'm walking around with the kids, buying food/gifts, taking pictures. I'm certainly not going on any rides, unless your kids are older and want to go on rides with you. The extent of a ride for me is possibly the tea cup ride or the merry go round with my daughter, but then again my oldest is only 2.5. Maybe if your kids are older and want to go on the rides...............

Personally, I think flash is essential for indoor "meet and greet" shots and makeover sessions. Using a speedlite means you can bounce the flash off of the walls and ceilings where it's less likely to be aimed right in someones face. Considering the amount of camera flashes going off at Disney however, I think it's a moot point. ;)

Disney is definitely about keeping the kids (and in my case the wife) entertained. The photography is how we entertain ourselves. :) That said, you can take a camera bag/backpack on just about every ride there. I usually put mine between my feet. My girls love roller coasters so we end up riding most of them. I don't find that having a camera bag is too much of a hindrance when going on rides.

I have definitely trimmed my kit down however now that both of my girls are old enough for the rides. Before I could put anything I though I might want to use at any random point of the day in my bag, knowing it was going to spend the whole day on the back of the stroller. Know my bag spends the majority of the day on my back so I've slimmed the kit down a wee bit to just one body, a lens or two, and a flash.


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Oct 22, 2015 15:07 |  #20

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TS has a stroller, DSLR is easy to manage with the stroller, a total non issue. If your going with bigger kids that walk, then that's a completely different scenario, but as long as you've got 1 stroller, it's much different.

1st time... no stroller. This time I have a 2yr old so yes stroller = no question on taking gear.


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Oct 22, 2015 15:10 |  #21

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Personally, I think flash is essential for indoor "meet and greet" shots and makeover sessions. Using a speedlite means you can bounce the flash off of the walls and ceilings where it's less likely to be aimed right in someones face. Considering the amount of camera flashes going off at Disney however, I think it's a moot point. ;)

Disney is definitely about keeping the kids (and in my case the wife) entertained. The photography is how we entertain ourselves. :) That said, you can take a camera bag/backpack on just about every ride there. I usually put mine between my feet. My girls love roller coasters so we end up riding most of them. I don't find that having a camera bag is too much of a hindrance when going on rides.

I have definitely trimmed my kit down however now that both of my girls are old enough for the rides. Before I could put anything I though I might want to use at any random point of the day in my bag, knowing it was going to spend the whole day on the back of the stroller. Know my bag spends the majority of the day on my back so I've slimmed the kit down a wee bit to just one body, a lens or two, and a flash.


I agree. My previous meet and greet was no flash high iso and the spot lights on the face made them look ugly. This time imma blast them with mega juice to kill their spot lights and get controlled lighting.


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Oct 22, 2015 15:20 |  #22

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I would bring a main body, one WA/UWA prime, one standard zoom, and one normal fast prime. Not sure I would want to bother with a flash, not so much because of size/weight, but I would feel like it would be distracting to others around you with a flash going off.

Also for me, any type of amusement park is more for the kids than yourself so I'm walking around with the kids, buying food/gifts, taking pictures. I'm certainly not going on any rides, unless your kids are older and want to go on rides with you. The extent of a ride for me is possibly the tea cup ride or the merry go round with my daughter, but then again my oldest is only 2.5. Maybe if your kids are older and want to go on the rides.

For me presently I would take my a7rII, my 28, 24-70, 28, and 55 (like WA prime, one standard zoom, and one fast prime). Maybe if you're going on the safari a 70-200 or telephoto. I'm seriously considering going back to a DSLR and if I did I would pack all of the above in a pack that's easily accessible like a Mindshift Rotation 180 or my f-stop Gear Kenti.

Funny you say that lol

both taken w/ S100... Unfortunately my parents leaned forward blocking my sons head but you can still make out that he was waving at the Nemo character. The images are just full of grain and lack the crispness/clean images you can get with the proper gear. I've learned so much since then and also have much more capable gear. I'm very excited to go on this trip but not for taking photos for seeing my kids have fun and enjoying them at disney. I just wish I can have some decent images like what Sporadic has posted (fine images).

Edit: These images I'm so glad I got but at the same time makes me puke.... should of just used a phone. S100 simply is not on par to my current standards. So to the guy saying enjoy the memories and be glad you got images... I am.... but in 20 years I'll say "You know what... I should of just suffered and ate peanut butter sandwhiches and bought better gear because these images should of just been better"


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Oct 22, 2015 15:41 |  #23

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Personally, when I take vacation family photos I don't want to blow out the background. I like to know where we've been. Thus I'd take a fast prime for when I can't use flash, such as some interior shots.

Using a 24mm 1.4 your gonna capture the environment and provide good subject background separation for a unique pop and the background even at 1.4 is not going to be completely blown out.


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Oct 23, 2015 19:34 |  #24

Wow! I have either joined the wrong forum, or I am one grumpy old man. My idea of a vacation involves a pool, endless Pina Coladas supplemented with a DS of dark rum, and little else. No cameras or children in sight. :)

With that out of the way, if I were going to Disney to take photos, I'd take take the FE, for sure.




  
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Oct 23, 2015 22:32 |  #25

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Wow! I have either joined the wrong forum, or I am one grumpy old man. My idea of a vacation involves a pool, endless Pina Coladas supplemented with a DS of dark rum, and little else. No cameras or children in sight. :)

With that out of the way, if I were going to Disney to take photos, I'd take take the FE, for sure.

Any particular reason why? The FE is my favorite lens but it's more of a specialty item.


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Oct 24, 2015 01:40 |  #26

If it were me? 6D and the 16-35 4 IS (if I had it)

Reality: 6D and 40 stm pancake Done.

My desire for light weight travel, it will cover my needs.

Perfect for environmental portraits, and it makes for a on portrait lens with with paper framing and later cropping.

Sure my 24L and 50L make a killer combo, but I want a good sensor and lightweight most of all.


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Oct 24, 2015 03:45 |  #27

Talley wrote in post #17757963 (external link)
Any particular reason why? The FE is my favorite lens but it's more of a specialty item.

Lots of reasons. Look at your stats in opening post. The wide end of everything gets more attention. You like wide. Look at your reply to post #10. Its in post #11. You like wide. You own a FE. Disney is a really good place to use it.

Other than that, the FE gets GINORMONGOUS DOF. Environmental is what wides do best. Family member(s?) in front of attraction, with Goofy, or whatever. Shooter relatively close so subjects are significant part shot. Disney provides the huge, expansive, colorful background you are capturing, in focus, with the FE.

Kids see the world a lot wider than adults do. With their ADD-like minds, they can take in a lot more than an adult. The kids will remember Disney as mind-blowingly huge, expansive, busy, and wonderfully colorful. Capture it that way for them.

The distortion of a FE and Disney just seem to go well together.

Adults tend to see things a lot more focused and specifically. Most adults, even the photographers who take the shots, will see things in a wide-angle photograph they did not notice in the actual scene. If this doesn't apply to you and your FE, consider the fact that you too, are afflicted with ADD. No offense intended. Just the way things work.

The only other lens you listed that I'd consider taking is the 50 1.4. That will get you the tighter framing and low light shots you'll want.

While I'm at it, I'd surely trade the S100 for a G15 or G16. They have the same size sensor, and the G-series lens is more than two stops faster at the long end. Being able to capture the HUGE DOF of a small sensor at f/2.8 can make a big difference at a place like Disney. Where else can you get an Image Stabilized 140mm f/2.8 lens you can fit in your pants pocket?

When you are done with this crazy hectic trip, meet me by the adults-only pool at the Rio in LV. I'll buy you a Pina Colada (double-shot of dark rum on top optional) and show you how to take a real vacation.




  
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Oct 24, 2015 07:36 |  #28

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When you are done with this crazy hectic trip, meet me by the adults-only pool at the Rio in LV. I'll buy you a Pina Colada (double-shot of dark rum on top optional) and show you how to take a real vacation.

Haha awesome!

And to the other info... Ya I'll take the FE. Your spot on because to me it's the memory capture. It captures where your at.... as if you were there again. That is why I love FE.


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Oct 24, 2015 18:22 |  #29

I learned from my compact camera mistake.
I wanted something superior to the iPhone 5 as it was my only other camera before my 6D

I researched and got the G7x.
While it's a great camera and has perfect range for what I shoot (24-100mm)

The only times I thought the photos were acceptable, was outside in good light with the ND filter activated.

"It simply wasn't on par with my other gear."

I used my 6D for 95% of the trip and was glad I didn't 'travel ultra-light' and leave it at home.


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Oct 27, 2015 13:19 |  #30

I just got back and I really liked using the 40mm pancake and 24L most. I rarely use the pancake and I forgot how nice that lens really is.

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