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Oct 06, 2015 15:18 |  #16

OK so this is starting to make sense. One more question. If I use a CTO gel to combat the incandescent light what cut gel should I use?


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Oct 06, 2015 15:23 |  #17

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OK so this is starting to make sense. One more question. If I use a CTO gel to combat the incandescent light what cut gel should I use?

Best not to try new things at a wedding unless uve had adequate time to practice and test it. You don't want to be missing shots because you are too busy trying to remember how to do whatever you just learned.


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Oct 06, 2015 15:28 as a reply to  @ BlakeC's post |  #18

To be honest, I was already thinking that. So it is settled - I think :-)

Three flashes both in the church and the hall, one on camera - two on stands. All with battery packs. All bouncing off of ceiling. Flash in ETTL, Camera in manual.

I considered renting the 24-70 2.8 but I am going to be shaking enough that I think IS will prove to be beneficial. :lol::lol:

Thanks to all for your help!!


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Oct 06, 2015 15:43 |  #19

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Three flashes both in the church and the hall, one on camera - two on stands. All with battery packs. All bouncing off of ceiling. Flash in ETTL, Camera in manual.

Are you sure? I would still have them ask to make sure you can use flash. I literally just got this email from a client 5 minutes ago. I knew this was coming because I've worked with this church before, but here's the email... "says no flash or floodlights are permitted. It also asks that you stay in a predetermined stationary position during the ceremony, except for during the procession and recession."

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I considered renting the 24-70 2.8 but I am going to be shaking enough that I think IS will prove to be beneficial.

You are doing this for free, not paying to do it. If you think that their photos would benefit from a rented lens, bring it up to them and they can pay the cost to rent it. Be careful with changing your lens though, it may need some micro adjusting that you don't have time for.

Another option is a monopod.


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Oct 06, 2015 16:04 as a reply to  @ BlakeC's post |  #20

I texted the bride and asked her to double check. The minister is her soon to be father-in-law and the guy is pretty easy going so I don't think flash will be a problem but I have asked her to check and get back to me tonight.

As for the monopod - a good suggestion but if I can get some more light in there I should be able to get away with to 24-105 F4 which is a lens I am very familiar with and one that I already have!


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Oct 06, 2015 16:08 |  #21

Do a custom white balance in each different area/ lighting situation you will face.
I have been in the stationary position/no flash situation before. Not sure what the max ISO you can shoot without noise is with that body. Test it if there is any chance you won't be able to use a flash.

I use an Xrite Color Checker. You could set up ahead by shooting each scenario with the X rite card ahead of time.

A flash bracket will pay dividends.

Do you have a second camera body and flash? Arrange it if you can.

Extra SD cards and batteries.


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Oct 06, 2015 16:11 as a reply to  @ poloman's post |  #22

Don't bounce off the ceiling unless it is white.

Try shooting in AV mode. It works very well with that flash.


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Oct 06, 2015 16:31 |  #23

I use an Xrite as well. Yes I do have an extra body - a T2i but it would do in a pinch


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Oct 06, 2015 19:08 |  #24

1/4 CTO gel will help balance to incandescent.

it's nothing to be afraid of.

i mean, if you are going to be prepared to really use your 600s adding a gel is child's play. :D


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Oct 06, 2015 20:24 as a reply to  @ Left Handed Brisket's post |  #25

Thank you.

Also heard back from the bride, all set with flash.


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Oct 07, 2015 02:36 |  #26

Northwoods Bill wrote in post #17735557 (external link)
I texted the bride and asked her to double check. The minister is her soon to be father-in-law and the guy is pretty easy going so I don't think flash will be a problem but I have asked her to check and get back to me tonight.

As for the monopod - a good suggestion but if I can get some more light in there I should be able to get away with to 24-105 F4 which is a lens I am very familiar with and one that I already have!

I'm a pro wedding photographer. Just my 2¢...

I'd recommend not using any flash in the church. It's not about whether the building is decommissioned, and it's also not about whether the officiant is an easygoing guy. It's about NOT distracting attention from the couple and detracting from the event. Weddings are tends to be quiet, dignified, and focused affairs rather than an opportunity as a media show. Flashing the ceremony tends to do pretty much most of the things you don't want, even if you accomplish your lighting goals. So use your camera's high ISO capability and go for being unobtrusive.

You can practice all the lighting you want at the reception (although ideally I recommend you NOT "practice" on your friend's wedding at all). Know your gear thoroughly before ever offering again. And if you're not doing this for any $$$ exchanged, then don't invest $$$$ out of your own pocket. No sense in that.

Take a deep breath, keep it simple, and focus less on gear, and more on the meaning of the event to your friend. ;-)a




  
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Oct 07, 2015 05:10 as a reply to  @ Ulysses01's post |  #27

Thank you for your thoughts. Fortunately I learned last night that they are going to have the church open all day Friday for set up so I will be able to get in and experiment with a few different set ups and then take them back to LR Friday evening to see exactly what the result is.

As for next time... I am looking forward to this weekend but I don't plan to shoot another wedding in my lifetime!


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Oct 08, 2015 13:11 as a reply to  @ Northwoods Bill's post |  #28

In addition to all the good above points. If you plan on bouncing that strobe of brown surfaces you will subjects will also pick up a brown cast to clothes & skin (I had the exact same situation a couple of years ago). So make sure you are shooting RAW to ease the post processing work.


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Oct 24, 2015 19:05 as a reply to  @ say_cheese's post |  #29

Thanks. It all went fairly well I thought. I will post up some more images when I get a chance. Wedding was two weeks ago and I am just getting into editing. Not long after the wedding I had a major O/S crash that it has taken a while to bounce back from. Thank goodness all my images are on the NAS and not my local network. Lightroom catalog backup worked properly so overall it was just a minor pain in the a** but it still took some time! Below is an image that the bride had specifically requested. I wish the image on the flower girls face was a bit more wistful but it was the best I could get - not to mention I am not sure how to coach someone on looking wistful!


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Oct 25, 2015 01:18 |  #30

Northwoods Bill wrote in post #17758895 (external link)
I wish the image on the flower girls face was a bit more wistful but it was the best I could get - not to mention I am not sure how to coach someone on looking wistful.

Nice job, Bill. You made it through the storm and lived to tell the tale. :-)

The answer to your implied question about coaching is that you don't. Allow real and natural moments take priority over anything else. If a request doesn't fit in with the flow of the day or with the mood of the moment, that's okay because you're capturing something more important — the day the way it really happened. ;-)a

Congrats! And I'm also glad you got those images backed up! Disasters always happen when we least expect it.




  
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