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Oct 27, 2015 19:04 |  #571

j5brock wrote in post #17750622 (external link)
I have found it(metabones iv) almost flawless with the 70-200 II.

So does that mean the AF is on par with the 5d3 when using this set up on the AR?




  
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Oct 28, 2015 09:58 |  #572

Somebloke wrote in post #17762622 (external link)
So does that mean the AF is on par with the 5d3 when using this set up on the AR?


no it does not

i have both setups as well - it works on the A7R with the Metabones iv T but is is lacking the 'power' and speed that is delivered on the 5D3 - and definitely don't think it is going to track in AFC like it does is AI Servo - especially as the thing being tracked is close and coming at the camera - at that point it fails


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Oct 28, 2015 12:23 |  #573

Decided to take the A7Rii to a hockey game last night. It is one of the better lit arenas in Toronto but it has the white webbing that you have to shoot through so I play significantly with the image in PP to make the webbing 'mostly' disappear (otherwise there would be more detail in the blacks). I used the 135L and shot at F2, 1/1000, iso 2500. BB focus, high speed, AFC, AWB, Center Medium focus. I was happy with the Camera's AWB and the colours out of camera.

The following were challenges:
- the white webbing will catch the AF so I almost entirely shot towards a net at the goalie so I wouldn't be tracking in which case the AF didn't have a problem
- i have setup my camera to shut down quickly to save battery so waking it back up is a major challenge if something happens quickly so don't do this
- i can say i almost never shoot with a prime at hockey because a 70-200 is a much better fit but F2 is so much better in poor lighting and I wanted to keep a slightly lower profile and the A7Rii works with the 135L better than the 70-200 F2.8II
- you have to get use to that the slow refresh rate of the eye viewer (it sucks) and just keep snapping away - obviously this will have to improve in a 1Dx type mirrorless camera and I don't see any reason why with faster computers and better batteries why it can't happen
- i made it work with BBF but I personally wish the next A7 is a substantially taller camera, or at least that they offer a man / pro version, so that you can really hold it in your hand - without having to install a grip to make it bigger

The camera works and the images are good sooc. With the right lenses and more batteries / more powerful batteries, I could easily use it - but it isn't quite there yet for pro sporting work as your only camera.


Dear Sony, here are my specs for the next A7 - lets call it the A7 Pro
- bigger with man hand ergonomics with much, much bigger battery that is more powerful to drive bigger lenses
- 5-10x the eye refresh rate
- joystick to move AF points
- 70-200 F2.8, 200F2 native lenses


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Hockey and wedding photographer. Favourite camera / lens combos: a 1DX II with a Tamron 45 1.8 VC, an A7Rii with a Canon 24-70F2.8L II, and a 5DSR with a Tamron 85 1.8 VC. Every lens I own I strongly recommend [Canon (35Lii, 100L Macro, 24-70F2.8ii, 70-200F2.8ii, 100-400Lii), Tamron (45 1.8, 85 1.8), Sigma 24-105]. If there are better lenses out there let me know because I haven't found them.

  
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Oct 30, 2015 13:43 |  #574

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Oct 30, 2015 13:50 |  #575

Timphoto wrote in post #17758073 (external link)
Don't listen to David. He's an evil man who has led many of us down the road of Gear Acquisition Syndrome and empty wallets.  :p :-D

Seriously though, if you're looking for a smaller kit, you won't go wrong with an A7RII and a couple of lenses like the FE 50/1.8 and the FE 28/2.

I'd suggest making that 50mm above the 55mm f1.8 TBH


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Oct 31, 2015 17:20 |  #576

A few fall foliage shots...Zeiss 135/2

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Oct 31, 2015 20:08 |  #577

My last two shots before I dropped my less than a week old A7rii in the stream in the first photo :-(

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Oct 31, 2015 21:01 |  #578

First time shooting something other than a Canon in 17 years. I shot a few side by sides with the 5DSR, but haven't had the chance to make sure they are apples to apples yet.


A7R II / Canon 11-24 1/60 f/5.0 ISO 1600

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Nov 01, 2015 13:08 |  #579

tried the A7Rii again at a tike hockey game this am:
- the colours are great
- the AF for tracking is not fast enough

if you take the approach of doing 'portraits' during a sporting event i think it can do a good job

AF tracking needs to be 5x faster and EVF refresh rate needs to be 10x faster
- sign me up for a A7Riii Pro model


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Nov 01, 2015 16:26 |  #580

One more from my trip to London and Paris. They had an alarm at Versailles and emptied the place and I happened to be in the right place at the right time and had the first 20 rooms to myself when they re-opened. Hall of Mirrors empty except for the one seated worker.

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Nov 02, 2015 10:10 |  #581

The dynamic range on these cameras is unbelievable. I took some Halloween shots with the 1DX last week after not using it for months and I was trying to pull out shadow detail that I had gotten used to pulling out of the alphas and was very disappointed. Went for walk this morning and took a few shots with the 7RII and the DR I was able to pull out of the shadows was unbelievable. The 42 megapickles was a real treat also;

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Nov 02, 2015 10:25 |  #582

This would have been impossible with the canon sensor unless at least 3 image HDR;

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Nov 02, 2015 19:53 |  #583

This camera is in my future....albeit, distant future. :cry:


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Nov 03, 2015 10:44 |  #584

More fall colors bokeh. Zeiss 85 Otus

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Nov 03, 2015 11:45 |  #585

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