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Help me get that 'Wow' factor...if its possible.

 
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Oct 22, 2015 13:45 as a reply to  @ post 17756017 |  #31

Thanks, Blake.

Considering where the shot started, I am pleased with the results of the edits, and I learned a bunch of little tricks in LR in a short period of time. I think the shot is finally to the point where the Grandparents will love them, and I can live with them as well. Even though my overly critical self will always look at it and think "If only I did ____ the picture would have been better".

Frequently, I am my worst critic, as I am sure many of us are.


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Oct 22, 2015 13:50 as a reply to  @ KurtB's post |  #32

Keep your raw files around. 1) raw and image processors get better over time and 2) you get better over time.

Keeping these digital negatives means you can take a shot of your kid from 10 years ago, and remaster them into a JPG that is a higher quality than what you might have had at the time. This is another reason to always shoot raw for the shots you want to keep. :)

I know, because I used to shoot my Rebel and 30D in JPG only 11 years ago, and now wish I had the raw files. :(


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Oct 22, 2015 13:52 |  #33

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Keep your raw files around. 1) raw processors get better over time

you will also need more hard drives!  :p


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Oct 22, 2015 13:56 |  #34

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you will also need more hard drives!  :p

That was the issue back in the early 2000s, space WASN'T cheap. Now fortunately it is. :) Heck, we now have .5TB SD cards... how long before 1TB SD?

4TB NAS storage is quite inexpensive, as is online storage, like Amazon Glacier.

Just imagine, my NAS could be the size of a tic tac box, with 4 SD slots, each one with a 1TB SD. :D


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Oct 22, 2015 14:00 |  #35

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That was the issue back in the early 2000s, space WASN'T cheap. Now fortunately it is. :) Heck, we now have .5TB SD cards... how long before 1TB SD?

4TB NAS storage is quite inexpensive, as is online storage, like Amazon Glacier.

Just imagine, my NAS could be the size of a tic tac box, with 4 SD slots, each one with a 1TB SD. :D

So true!

Microsoft OneDrive! I love cloud storage. I use externals too but i love my cloud storage! OneDrive is 1TB right now but is going unlimited soon!

I have access to everything from anywhere anytime and can share a folder with a client with just a link!


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Oct 22, 2015 14:02 |  #36

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So true!

Microsoft OneDrive! I love cloud storage. I use externals too but i love my cloud storage! OneDrive is 1TB right now but is going unlimited soon!

I have access to everything from anywhere anytime and can share a folder with a client with just a link!

I run a synology NAS at home and I use it as my personal dropbox, complete with links to clients. I use Dropbox and GoogleDrive as well, but I think I need to rethink some of this and centralize. Just not a priority, there are so many other more interesting things to work on. :lol:


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Oct 22, 2015 14:23 |  #37

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there are so many other more interesting things to work on. :lol:

Yup!


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Oct 22, 2015 14:31 |  #38

IT is my normal job, so I know the importance of keeping originals (RAW files) and backups.

Now actually performing the backups are a different story...but that is a different thread entirely. :oops:

I have had to upgrade the external drives a number of times over the years. Its nice that the keep getting larger, cheaper, and more reliable each time. I am considering a NAS unit for at home with a cloud-based backup that I can automate so I know that it gets backed up.


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Oct 22, 2015 16:18 |  #39

Final thoughts? Yes, I prefer the B&W, and I think it could use a little darkening. The yellows and greens of the vegetation are just bad colors to mix with the boy's complexion and shirt. "Bluer" grasses would have been better.

However, if his is the only B&W portrait in his class, he might not like that.


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Oct 23, 2015 15:03 as a reply to  @ OhLook's post |  #40

Thanks for that feedback OhLook.

It's all just for personal use at our home and at the grandparent's homes, so there aren't any issues with it being the only B&W in his class.


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Oct 25, 2015 23:10 |  #41

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Doesn't standing farther back but zooming in more give you the same DOF as standing closer and shooting a bit wider? Basically if you frame the subject the same way using different combinations of distance vs focal length, the DOF remains pretty static?

I agree that you want to shoot this with a wider aperture, and definitely get a bit more distance between the subject and the background. That is why the blurred background rendition has a bit more pop. Play with sharpening, contrast and saturation to finish up the image. :)

I like that last edit of yours the best out of all of them, I would just run that through a nice 3rd party suite like Nik to do a skin softener or glamour edit.

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If you look at the equations for DOF, distance tends to have a more driving effect unless you are at very close distance with small changes.

The above suggestion to separate the subject more from the background, I believe was more a comment on bokeh than just dof. The distance behind dof (in focus subject) also is a greater driver of blurriness and bokeh quality than a larger aperture shrinking the dof.

Fwiw- If inclined, you can look up dof equations and you'll see that they are different for 'near field' and 'far field' when using their simplified forms.




  
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Nov 02, 2015 21:10 |  #42

Quick thought FWIW:
The thing that stood out to me most was that he hates to smile for pictures, and this is a photo of him smiling. If he hates to smile for pictures, is there another kind of photo that he would enjoy making more that might bring him out more? Great portraits are about capturing a person how they really are. If they're uncomfortable with how they're being captured, that's the first thing to address. If the goal is to "get that Wow factor", I think you're more likely to achieve that by making a photo that both you and the subject are into. Mom and the grandparents might even be surprised to love a photo that really "looks like him", even if he isn't smiling.




  
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