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Nov 30, 2015 09:23 |  #9301

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As far as I know, gels has impact on B&W too, as BW has RGB channels too.
Back in the great film days people used colorgels with BW films too.

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Nov 30, 2015 09:24 |  #9302

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I'm pretty ignorant of gel usage but it doesn't make any difference in B&W is that correct? (I realize for the other shots that were in color it makes it easier to post process.)

Convert any image to B&W and then adjust the color temperature. You will see the effect the gels would have.


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Nov 30, 2015 09:37 |  #9303

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Convert any image to B&W and then adjust the color temperature. You will see the effect the gels would have.

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Nov 30, 2015 13:58 as a reply to  @ post 17801511 |  #9304

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Nov 30, 2015 14:03 as a reply to  @ post 17781671 |  #9305

Have you ever used this same setup with the Speedlights YONGNUO YN685???




  
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Nov 30, 2015 18:39 |  #9306

Heya,

Was told by the misses that it was time for our fall family photos, I had the day off, so had to get to work on it. Got some pumpkins a few weeks back and saved them for this. I wanted to shoot in the light, before it got late even though I'd rather shoot right in the last evening light, but the 2 year old often doesn't do well at that point and is sleepy and less cooperative. So did it in the afternoon around 2pm or so. I kept it in my backyard, literally near junk and stuff, and just used tight angles to limit what was in the photos. I normally would have used my Rovelight to beat down the sun, but I found I didn't need it for this in the shade. So I took out my fleet of speedlites and ganged a few up. I used gels (1/2 CTO) that I cut for all my lights and velcro on. I actually have been really enjoying speedlites more than my strobe lately. Light weight, super portable, easy to stand and move around and not worry with, and I can change zoom/power level on all of them remotely with the TX-560 system. Quick recycle times. Enough punch to do good fill or key if necessary in shade or relatively lower light levels.

Gear & setup:

5D classic with a 200 F2.8L, 1/200s F2.8 ISO 100 for the most part (had to go up on ISO later in the evening, and drop flash power)
Pixel (generic) wireless remote shutter; I use this because these are literally selfies when I'm in the photo
Yongnuo TX-560 controller
Yongnuo 560 III flashes (three of them), each with a strip of 1/2 CTO gel velcro'd on. Shot around 1/4th power early on, ended up around 1/16th power later on as I raised ISO
Cheetahboom + dual-cold-shoe + Two of the 560III's + 43" White shoot-through Umbrella; counter weight & bungee staked to ground
Generic (Neewer?) light stand with s-bracket holding the third 560 III as a rim/hair/kicker for some pop
Pumpkins and some over hanging oak trees in my back yard

Edit (what I learned): Might be a bit too orange/red. White balance is 6000k with 1/2 CTO's. I'm colorblind so I can get it too hot some times. I think I might desaturate them a hair to maybe take the edge off. Also, I should have put a modifier on the back/kicker/rim light. It's harsh. Probably should have dropped it's output by a good 1 stop otherwise. A modifier would have dropped it by a stop anyways, so I should do that next time. A small umbrella or softbox. I tried to keep it as simple and mobile as possible. I also want to do a few without modifiers at all and work on getting decent at using bare flash with gels, using them as fill only, and trying to get it to the point where it's not harsh looking. I would love to just use stands & bare lights one day.

Literally my back yard:

IMAGE: https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5742/22805749403_0a85087564_c.jpg
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/AKgq​KV  (external link) IMG_9703 (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

IMAGE: https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5745/22804495704_c24f6d6295_c.jpg
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/AKa1​5q  (external link) IMG_9707 (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

IMAGE: https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5825/23324491392_743804297d_c.jpg
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/Bx77​Fj  (external link) IMG_6077 (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/AKgJ​CZ  (external link) IMG_6076 (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

Results (handheld when its the girls; when I'm in the photo it's a selfie with the remote shutter release):

IMAGE: https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5759/23137253730_67dc4f6277_c.jpg
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/Bfyt​rL  (external link) IMG_6096 (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

IMAGE: https://farm1.staticflickr.com/664/23137250290_f75d1c90e4_c.jpg
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/Bfys​qs  (external link) IMG_6105 (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

IMAGE: https://farm1.staticflickr.com/723/23324549292_2a7c310f46_c.jpg
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/Bx7p​TA  (external link) IMG_6141 (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/Bfyq​Ko  (external link) IMG_6118 (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

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Nov 30, 2015 18:56 as a reply to  @ MalVeauX's post |  #9307

Martin,

Thanks for the information on the set-up but what do you do for focusing? Auto-focus or manual?

Nice shots of the family.

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Nov 30, 2015 19:11 |  #9308

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Nov 30, 2015 19:22 |  #9309

CBell21 wrote in post #17801963 (external link)
Have you ever used this same setup with the Speedlights YONGNUO YN685???

a flash is a flash is a flash. the light that comes out is basically the same for all of them. some just have more options than others.


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Nov 30, 2015 19:31 |  #9310

Gart wrote in post #17802425 (external link)
Martin,

Thanks for the information on the set-up but what do you do for focusing? Auto-focus or manual?

Nice shots of the family.

Gart

Autofocus. I set the camera to normal focus & exposure on the shutter button (custom function 0) instead of back button focus. One shot focus drive (this way it will achieve focus once, then stop). I used center point here as it was always on subject and there was enough depth of field to make sure we're all in focus even at F2.8. When I press the remote shutter and half-depress, it will have the camera focus and stop once locked, then full depress the button to trip shutter for exposure & trip the lights.

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Dec 01, 2015 10:10 |  #9311

MalVeauX wrote in post #17802401 (external link)
Heya,

Was told by the misses that it was time for our fall family photos, I had the day off, so had to get to work on it. Got some pumpkins a few weeks back and saved them for this. I wanted to shoot in the light, before it got late even though I'd rather shoot right in the last evening light, but the 2 year old often doesn't do well at that point and is sleepy and less cooperative. So did it in the afternoon around 2pm or so. I kept it in my backyard, literally near junk and stuff, and just used tight angles to limit what was in the photos. I normally would have used my Rovelight to beat down the sun, but I found I didn't need it for this in the shade. So I took out my fleet of speedlites and ganged a few up. I used gels (1/2 CTO) that I cut for all my lights and velcro on. I actually have been really enjoying speedlites more than my strobe lately. Light weight, super portable, easy to stand and move around and not worry with, and I can change zoom/power level on all of them remotely with the TX-560 system. Quick recycle times. Enough punch to do good fill or key if necessary in shade or relatively lower light levels.

Gear & setup:

5D classic with a 200 F2.8L, 1/200s F2.8 ISO 100 for the most part (had to go up on ISO later in the evening, and drop flash power)
Pixel (generic) wireless remote shutter; I use this because these are literally selfies when I'm in the photo
Yongnuo TX-560 controller
Yongnuo 560 III flashes (three of them), each with a strip of 1/2 CTO gel velcro'd on. Shot around 1/4th power early on, ended up around 1/16th power later on as I raised ISO
Cheetahboom + dual-cold-shoe + Two of the 560III's + 43" White shoot-through Umbrella; counter weight & bungee staked to ground
Generic (Neewer?) light stand with s-bracket holding the third 560 III as a rim/hair/kicker for some pop
Pumpkins and some over hanging oak trees in my back yard

Edit (what I learned): Might be a bit too orange/red. White balance is 6000k with 1/2 CTO's. I'm colorblind so I can get it too hot some times. I think I might desaturate them a hair to maybe take the edge off. Also, I should have put a modifier on the back/kicker/rim light. It's harsh. Probably should have dropped it's output by a good 1 stop otherwise. A modifier would have dropped it by a stop anyways, so I should do that next time. A small umbrella or softbox. I tried to keep it as simple and mobile as possible. I also want to do a few without modifiers at all and work on getting decent at using bare flash with gels, using them as fill only, and trying to get it to the point where it's not harsh looking. I would love to just use stands & bare lights one day.

Literally my back yard:

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/AKgq​KV  (external link) IMG_9703 (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/AKa1​5q  (external link) IMG_9707 (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/Bx77​Fj  (external link) IMG_6077 (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/AKgJ​CZ  (external link) IMG_6076 (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

Results (handheld when its the girls; when I'm in the photo it's a selfie with the remote shutter release):

https://flic.kr/p/Bfyt​rL (external link)IMG_6096 (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/Bfys​qs (external link)IMG_6105 (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/Bx7p​TA (external link)IMG_6141 (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/Bfyq​Ko (external link)IMG_6118 (external link) by Martin Wise (external link), on Flickr

Very best,

Thanks for sharing this, I'm learning so much from this forum and folks like yourself! Very nice job!




  
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Dec 02, 2015 02:28 |  #9312

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Dec 02, 2015 02:49 |  #9313

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It's that time of year again. Another go at holiday photos for the family...

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Dec 02, 2015 10:47 |  #9315

Scatterbrained wrote in post #17804263 (external link)
It's that time of year again. Another go at holiday photos for the family...

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