Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS General Gear Talk Flash and Studio Lighting 
Thread started 28 Nov 2015 (Saturday) 11:01
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

430 ex ii vs 580 ex ii

 
Green ­ Li
Senior Member
753 posts
Gallery: 15 photos
Likes: 41
Joined Jan 2009
Post edited over 3 years ago by Green Li.
     
Dec 01, 2015 16:46 |  #16

EmaginePixel wrote in post #17803668 (external link)
Still using my 580 EX ii bought new in 08 and still firing like a champ today.

same here


PHOTO-TIPS-ONLINE.com – photo tips, photography reviews (external link)
Facebook (external link) | Twitter (external link) | Google (external link)+

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
nixland
Senior Member
515 posts
Likes: 173
Joined Apr 2009
     
Dec 01, 2015 18:04 as a reply to  @ Green Li's post |  #17

I bought my 580exII in 2007 and its still rock too !




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
windpig
Chopped liver
Avatar
14,789 posts
Gallery: 5 photos
Likes: 1107
Joined Dec 2008
Location: Just South of Ballard
     
Dec 01, 2015 18:59 |  #18

The 580EXII is a dandy piece of gear.


Would you like to buy a vowel?
Go ahead, spin the wheel.
flickr (external link)
I'm accross the canal just south of Ballard, the town Seattle usurped in 1907.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
HappyShotz
THREAD ­ STARTER
Member
97 posts
Gallery: 3 photos
Likes: 12
Joined Jul 2014
     
Dec 02, 2015 15:01 |  #19

I've read that the 580 ex ii overheats more often than the 430 ex ii? True or false?




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
EmaginePixel
Goldmember
Avatar
1,944 posts
Likes: 42
Joined Sep 2008
Location: So Cal
     
Dec 02, 2015 15:59 |  #20

HappyShotz wrote in post #17804912 (external link)
I've read that the 580 ex ii overheats more often than the 430 ex ii? True or false?

I have both and over all these years, thousand of pops, I have never encountered an over heating issue. However, I don't burst or shoot in rapid succession when flash is used.


"Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That’s why its called the present” - Kung Fu Panda
EmaginePixel.com website (external link) ----- SportsShooter profile (external link) ----- Facebook page (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
gonzogolf
dumb remark memorialized
29,106 posts
Gallery: 7 photos
Likes: 1124
Joined Dec 2006
     
Dec 02, 2015 18:11 |  #21

HappyShotz wrote in post #17804912 (external link)
I've read that the 580 ex ii overheats more often than the 430 ex ii? True or false?

It probably does but not for the reason you might think. The 580exII is capable of using an external battery pack and the 430exII is not. Most of the people shooting hard enough to kick in the thermal protection are probably using the 580exII to begin with and using a battery pack as well.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mikepj
Member
Avatar
204 posts
Likes: 63
Joined Jan 2011
Location: Central Michigan
     
Dec 02, 2015 18:20 |  #22

I have both flashes and never had a problem with overheating.

The big difference is the amount of power. The 580 is a stronger flash, so you can get more light from it or faster recycle times between shots using the same amount of power. The 580 feels like it always has more power in reserve. It also has better build quality and weather sealing (for the battery pack and near the hotshoe).

The 430 has the advantage of being smaller though. It feels a lot lighter when carrying it on top of a camera and is easier to manage. It's a great first-time flash, and I'll still bring it over the 580 when I'm just out photographing for fun.

The lack of full rotation on the 430 is a little annoying, but I can count on one hand the number of times it kept me from getting the shot. Just have to adapt.


Radiant Photography (external link) Instagram (external link) Instagram (Sports) (external link) Flickr (external link)
5D Mark IV, 7D Mark II, Rebel SL1
16-35 ƒ4L, 24-105 ƒ4L, 70-200 ƒ2.8L IS II, 100-400 ƒ4.5-5.6L, 85 ƒ1.8, 50 ƒ1.8 STM, 24mm ƒ2.8 STM

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
absplastic
Goldmember
Avatar
1,643 posts
Gallery: 40 photos
Likes: 526
Joined Jan 2011
Location: Bay Area, CA
     
Dec 02, 2015 18:46 |  #23

Is this going to be used exclusively on camera? The 580ex II is a great flash, but I personally think it should be cheaper than it currently is, considering the extra hardware needed if you decide to use it off camera. If the power of the 430exII is enough for you, any reason you are not considering the 430exIII-rt? It's in the same price range as a like-new 580exII. I'd only consider the 580exII if you know that you will never want to use it off camera, and you can get it for a really good price ($250 or less).


5DSR, 6D, 16-35/4L IS, 85L II, 100L macro, Sigma 150-600C
SL1, 10-18 STM, 18-55 STM, 40 STM, 50 STM
My (mostly) Fashion and Portraiture Instagram (external link)
flickr (external link) (NSFW)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
stsva
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
6,360 posts
Gallery: 45 photos
Likes: 284
Joined Mar 2009
Location: Northern Virginia
     
Dec 02, 2015 19:04 |  #24

I don't know if it has already been mentioned, but there are also very reasonably priced third party flash units that can come pretty close to the 580ex II for considerably less money. One example is the Yongnuo YN568eEX II, currently available for around $100.


Some Canon stuff and a little bit of Yongnuo.
http://www.pbase.com/s​tsva/profile (external link)
Member of the GIYF
Club and
HAMSTTR
٩ Breeders Club https://photography-on-the.net …=744235&highlig​ht=hamsttr Join today!
Image Editing OK

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Green ­ Li
Senior Member
753 posts
Gallery: 15 photos
Likes: 41
Joined Jan 2009
     
Dec 02, 2015 23:53 |  #25

gonzogolf wrote in post #17805161 (external link)
It probably does but not for the reason you might think. The 580exII is capable of using an external battery pack and the 430exII is not. Most of the people shooting hard enough to kick in the thermal protection are probably using the 580exII to begin with and using a battery pack as well.

^^ +1


PHOTO-TIPS-ONLINE.com – photo tips, photography reviews (external link)
Facebook (external link) | Twitter (external link) | Google (external link)+

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Green ­ Li
Senior Member
753 posts
Gallery: 15 photos
Likes: 41
Joined Jan 2009
     
Dec 02, 2015 23:55 |  #26

stsva wrote in post #17805221 (external link)
I don't know if it has already been mentioned, but there are also very reasonably priced third party flash units that can come pretty close to the 580ex II for considerably less money. One example is the Yongnuo YN568eEX II, currently available for around $100.

How's the overheating with YN?


PHOTO-TIPS-ONLINE.com – photo tips, photography reviews (external link)
Facebook (external link) | Twitter (external link) | Google (external link)+

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
stsva
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
6,360 posts
Gallery: 45 photos
Likes: 284
Joined Mar 2009
Location: Northern Virginia
     
Dec 03, 2015 05:26 |  #27

Green Li wrote in post #17805498 (external link)
How's the overheating with YN?

I've not had any problems with it, but I mainly use it for pictures of family, not really stressing to the flash. There's a thread on this flash in the lighting forum; any issues with the flash will probably be mentioned there.


Some Canon stuff and a little bit of Yongnuo.
http://www.pbase.com/s​tsva/profile (external link)
Member of the GIYF
Club and
HAMSTTR
٩ Breeders Club https://photography-on-the.net …=744235&highlig​ht=hamsttr Join today!
Image Editing OK

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
poloman
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
5,442 posts
Likes: 4
Joined Dec 2006
Location: Southern Illinois
     
Dec 03, 2015 10:53 |  #28

I have both a 430EX II and a 580 EX II.
I far prefer the 580 EX II.
I did replace it with the 600 RT.
The 580 is for sale now. Contact me if you're interested.


"All those who believe in psychokinesis, raise my right hand!" Steven Wright

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
STIC
Goldmember
1,627 posts
Gallery: 360 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 981
Joined Oct 2012
Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand
Post edited over 3 years ago by STIC.
     
Dec 03, 2015 12:54 |  #29
bannedPermanent ban

My 580EXII cost almost a grand new, around 7 or 8 years ago...I might have used it 10 times over the years, if that and when I slipped some fresh batteries in it the other day it refused to turn on...now it's a very expensive paperweight...

I wish I'd used that grand on a lens...


7D MarkII l 50 1.8 STM l15-85 IS USM l 100-400 IS L l 2x converter l 580EX II l Wireless remote l A computer l Some software l A vehicle to get me around...;)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Green ­ Li
Senior Member
753 posts
Gallery: 15 photos
Likes: 41
Joined Jan 2009
     
Dec 03, 2015 16:51 as a reply to  @ STIC's post |  #30

i believe flashes are meant to be used. it's not good for them to be left for years with no use at all. i'm not an electronics guys, but i think i read it somewhere.


PHOTO-TIPS-ONLINE.com – photo tips, photography reviews (external link)
Facebook (external link) | Twitter (external link) | Google (external link)+

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

4,852 views & 7 likes for this thread
430 ex ii vs 580 ex ii
FORUMS General Gear Talk Flash and Studio Lighting 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Snapper Joe
1476 guests, 339 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.