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7d2 Iso compared to 60d.

 
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Dec 16, 2015 19:59 |  #1

I've been looking to get a 5d3 but The current low price of the 7d2 has me considering picking one up.

I know the obvious advantages of the 7d2 but how is the iso and dynamic range in real world examples compared to a 60d or 5d2?

I don't plan to have it replace my current bodies. More of an addition.


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Dec 17, 2015 07:05 |  #2

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I've been looking to get a 5d3 but The current low price of the 7d2 has me considering picking one up.

I know the obvious advantages of the 7d2 but how is the iso and dynamic range in real world examples compared to a 60d or 5d2?

I don't plan to have it replace my current bodies. More of an addition.

The 7D2, due to ability to capture detail more fully than the older 18mpx tech, and because of its better ISO out of the box, is about 1 effective stop. For an effective 1 stop gain, this means that if you take the same exposed, same settings shot between the two, and processed them identically to provide the same level of detail in the final product, the 7D2 images will be nearly 1 stop cleaner.

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Dec 17, 2015 09:00 |  #3

Thanks, those samples are outstanding. I'm assuming those are not straight out of the camera?


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Dec 17, 2015 11:49 as a reply to  @ Tommydigi's post |  #4

No, however, I didn't have to do much in the way of crazy masking, etc. Just a couple of runs of noiseware, not even my Denoiser actions.

Here is my review between the 7D2 and 5D3.

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Dec 17, 2015 12:40 |  #5

Thanks, Full frame is more my priority but I'm thinking the 7D2 would pair up nice with the 100-400. I've been all over the board on cameras this year and so far I've done nothing but the price is hard to pass up.


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Dec 17, 2015 13:24 |  #6

I can't comment on the 60D, but I have both the 7D2 and the 5D2. It's hard to pinpoint the ISO difference between these two cameras, because I feel like it varies over the ISO range.

In my experience, the 5D2 is about a half a stop better than the 7D2 with respect to high ISO noise at around 3200. So the 7D2 at 3200 has about the same amount of noise as the 5D2 at 4000 or 5000.

At higher ISO (12800+) I like the 7D2 better than the 5D2 because it produces a cleaner style of noise. At these higher ISOs, the 5D2 has a lot of chroma noise and it looks blotchy. The 7D2, on the other hand, has more luminance noise. It produces more of a sandpaper look without mixing the color, which is much more pleasing to look at straight out of the camera.

For both cameras I will set my auto ISO to choose up to ISO 3200. Beyond that I switch to manual ISO so I can determine just how far I want to push it for the type of photograph I am taking. I'll usually go up to around 6400, which isn't ideal, but not bad either if the end result is going be viewed at a smaller size.


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Dec 17, 2015 13:58 |  #7

Thanks, I rarely go above 3200. I just find the 60D is noisy after 800.


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Dec 17, 2015 15:34 |  #8

You might really like the auto-ISO functionality on the 7D2, it is truly now fully configurable and works in manual mode with EC at your fingertips.

You can tell what range the ISO can fluctuate between, as well as what EC you want, while in manual mode. The only other camera with the same configurability at this point is the 1DX.


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Dec 17, 2015 15:41 |  #9

It looks good, I hate mail in rebates however.

I was planning to upgrade my full frame body and possibly add a Fuji Xt1 so now my head is spinning since I really never considered a 7d but I can see this being a great camera for birds and sports. Nothing like holiday deals to make you spend money.


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Dec 17, 2015 15:46 |  #10

I've owned both cameras, the 7DM2 has one stop advantage and that's it. 6,400 is the max I like to go before the noise gets unbearable. When I need more I grab my Sony...


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Dec 17, 2015 15:48 |  #11

Here is the 100% raw view from my 7D2 at 12800 in DPP.

A cleaned up crop of that photo is also included.


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Dec 17, 2015 16:43 |  #12

Here is ISO 10000, direct out of the "camera", really directly out of DPP. No additiional processing or noise reduction. This is Joe Young, sent down for a bit from the Pacers to the D-leagues.

We can use ISO 10000 as is with almost no work on most of the pictures. Some of these go into marketing emails, some make it to the local paper.


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Dec 17, 2015 16:45 as a reply to  @ maverick75's post |  #13

A one stop advantage from one generation APS-C sensor to another is actually a feat, at least for Canon.


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Dec 17, 2015 16:48 |  #14

Looks good to me. I keep hearing how good the Sony is but I don't plan to switch. Going to add something Fuji but keep my Canon stuff too.


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Dec 17, 2015 16:54 |  #15

Here is a 7D ISO 6400 taken from my archives. 100% crop, but is post processed. Less detail and noise equivalent to the 7D2 with little to no processing at 12800.


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