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Jan 07, 2016 17:18 |  #76

Bassat wrote in post #17848969 (external link)
Nice 'copter shot Pagman.


Thank you, its an old shot from a canon bridge camera;-)a


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Jan 07, 2016 17:20 |  #77

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Thank you, its an old shot from a canon bridge camera;-)a

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You dare to publish a shot from a mere bridge camera, when Nikon dSLRs are eating Canon dSLR lunches?! ;-)a


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Jan 07, 2016 17:28 |  #78

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You dare to publish a shot from a mere bridge camera, when Nikon dSLRs are eating Canon dSLR lunches?! ;-)a



The problem is - its a good pic aswel :lol:


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Jan 07, 2016 17:34 |  #79

Bassat wrote in post #17848957 (external link)
I am happy with my Canon equipment. I don't understand why anything that anyone does after the purchase of equipment I have in my closet has any impact on the stuff I already own. I was happy with it yesterday. I am supposed to start crying now that another maker has released a superior product? Really? I still ride a 5 year old FLHTK. New models have newer features. Who cares?

You care, that's why you're here. I'm glad nikon is upping up the standards, 4K DSLR is way overdue.


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Jan 07, 2016 17:34 as a reply to  @ post 17848847 |  #80

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Nikon, since the D800/D4 about the same time as the 5D3/1DX... D600 D610 D750 D810 D810a Df - (but only single slot) D4s D5 D500

Quantity of models as listed is not inherently a display of superiority. Of those on your list,

  • in 2012, the D800/D800E did have proclaimed superiority to 5DIII. as stated in the quoted test in Post 67.
  • in 2014, the D750 was assessed as "Nikon's latest midrange full-frame camera is the 24 megapixel D750, which is at the same level as the aging Canon EOS 6D and Sony's recently announced Alpha 7 II."

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Jan 07, 2016 17:34 |  #81

FWIW I recently bought a D810 and held off selling all of my Canon glass incase I was disappointed

1 month later I have sold my 5d3 and half of my canon glass with the rest advertised. The sensor is just mind blowing. That being said I have found the Nikon glass dam expensive in comparison.




  
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Jan 07, 2016 17:35 |  #82

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While Sigma does offer a nice full array of products, it does need to overcome the hurdles of its past history

  • Need to re-chip lenses for newer models (and it stops rechipping at some point)...admittedly the new plug in updates helps!
  • Higher incidence than other lens brands of needing to send a new lens in for focus error adjustment (and coming back unchanged, to the frustration of owners)


A number of folks have bad taste in their mouth left from bad experiences like these. Hard to 'eat Canon's lunch' under those perceptions.

To be fair, ive owned a ton of Sigma glass over the years, Only had one actually malfunctioning lens..

2 150-500 OS, 1 50-500 OS, 30 f/1.4, 50 f/1.4, 15-30, 105 Macro, 180 Macro... and a few more im not thinking of at the moment...

my absolute favorite lens is my 50mm f/1.4, I absolutely adore the images it can produce, so sharp, contrasty, punchy, velvet smooth Bokeh... its worth every penny, i just wish i had a FF DSLR to use it on as i find the FL a bit awkward to work with sometimes.. the second favorite lens of mine is my 100L.. Similar reasons


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Jan 07, 2016 18:15 |  #83

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I hear that drivel a lot. Mostly generated by folks with no first hand knowledge of the 100-400L, I'm guessing. Lots of interweb chatter about how fantastic the 70-300L is. At the wide end, it is phenomenal. At the long end it is a dog (optically) compared to the original 100-400L. The the 100-400L is better at 300mm, at any aperture, than is the 70-300L. The 100-400L is as good at 400mm as the 70-300L is at 300mm. Want consumer glass? Look at the 55-250 (any flavor) or the 70-300 non-L. The 100-400L outclasses both of them, handily. The push/pull zoom of the old lens is faster and more intuitive than any twist zoom will ever be.

The 100-400L does have it share of issues. It can't take a (any!?!) filters. The IS is of little use, but some is better than none. No doubt, the 100-400L II is a superior lens. The long end is phenomenal. The IS works. But the price tag is a deal-breaker for lots of folks. When I paid $1600 for my new 100-400L about 4 years ago, I thought it was overly expensive, but there was no competition. Now that it is going used for about $700, it is a steal.

I Thought it just used standard 77mm filters.


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Jan 07, 2016 18:32 |  #84
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DavidR wrote in post #17849042 (external link)
I Thought it just used standard 77mm filters.

You can mount a 77mm filter. The lens becomes almost unusable if you do. Contrast and color go to hell. The focus becomes erratic. The 100-400L is notorious for its utter disdain of filters.




  
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Jan 07, 2016 20:56 |  #85

I remember when I first got into the hobby, 2 years ago. Everybody said go ahead, jump, the investment holds up pretty well. That $1500 Canon 7D that I bought would be damn lucky to fetch $450 now! I don't reckon this has anything to do with the thread, but I feel better now that I've gotten it off my chest! :-P




  
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Jan 07, 2016 20:59 |  #86

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I remember when I first got into the hobby, 2 years ago. Everybody said go ahead, jump, the investment holds up pretty well. That $1500 Canon 7D that I bought would be damn lucky to fetch $450 now! I don't reckon this has anything to do with the thread, but I feel better now that I've gotten it off my chest! :-P

I paid the geek tax on the 7D2 also..... I paid list price a few weeks after it started shipping... $1799, if I recall... I even bought it from Amazon and paid the state sales tax on it.....

Live and learn. Even lenses aren't keeping their value that well as of late.


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Jan 07, 2016 21:07 |  #87

Phoenixkh wrote in post #17849252 (external link)
Live and learn. Even lenses aren't keeping their value that well as of late.

Yeah. They used to, but recently they sure haven't.

But as major consolation, the more recent models have been getting a lot better.


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Jan 07, 2016 21:45 |  #88

Bassat wrote in post #17849080 (external link)
You can mount a 77mm filter. The lens becomes almost unusable if you do. Contrast and color go to hell. The focus becomes erratic. The 100-400L is notorious for its utter disdain of filters.

Not so sure I agree with your thoughts. I have the 100-400 and always have a circular mounted on it when im outside. Never had an issue with mine and it produces great images. One of the fastest and best focus lens I have. I for one love the push pull. All what you get used to. I love it for outside portraits and wildlife photography. Does a great job


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Jan 07, 2016 21:55 |  #89

I used filters on my 3 different 100-400Ls I have had in the past too. I also loved the push/pull, it was great not having to spin a zoom ring.


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Jan 07, 2016 22:05 |  #90

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17849306 (external link)
I used filters on my 3 different 100-400Ls I have had in the past too. I also loved the push/pull, it was great not having to spin a zoom ring.

I became so used to the push pull that I sometimes grab my V2 by the hood and push or pull to change FL!!


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