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Jan 09, 2016 19:44 |  #1

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Jan 10, 2016 16:29 |  #2

These are too loose. Shoot tight, crop tighter.

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Jan 10, 2016 16:32 |  #3

Zivnuska wrote in post #17852901 (external link)
These are too loose. Shoot tight, crop tighter.

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Agreed. And missed peak action.


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Jan 10, 2016 17:53 |  #4

Oh the start of club season. You can try and shoot like how the people do video do. Either go behind them, since there will be plays when they chase ball or on the other side of the net and try to shoot through the net


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Jan 10, 2016 17:59 |  #5

Thanks for the comments.


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Jan 10, 2016 18:02 |  #6

Keep at it. I find volleyball the hardest sport to shoot well.


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Jan 10, 2016 22:29 |  #7

Do you have faster glass available? If there is one thing that's nice about volleyball it's that you can get away with a shorter FL a lot of the time by positioning yourself intelligently. On a budget I'd go for the EF 100 f/2. Those 2-2.5 stops make a HUGE difference in the quality of volleyball shots.

As others have said, these are really missing peak action. You ideally want to capture either right before/after a hit and frame it tightly with either a single player or two players from opposing sides in the frame. Volleyball is a very difficult sport and it helps to focus on one "type" of shot at a time (someone returning serve, setting, etc.). This can be accomplished by essentially following one player at a time until you get a better feel for anticipating where the shots will go.

For a typical gym, figure your settings are f/2-2.8, ISO 3200-12800, 1/800-1/2000. These shots look about 3/4 of a stop underexposed to me.




  
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Jan 11, 2016 10:47 |  #8

I agree with the comments. I would use your 70-200 f4. You are going to have to crank up the ISO since these are a little dark. You keep your aperature at f4. You need as much light as you can get. Looks at Phil's tutorial. He is one of the best at shooting volleyball on here.




  
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Jan 11, 2016 11:53 |  #9

I'm going to keep at it. Long season ahead. The 70-200 f4 is the best I have for this and really taking pics for the girls. I should have used f4, but trying to get a little more dof. I probably should use the 70D instead of the 6D for the faster fps and try to deal with the noise in post. The 70D is just terrible above ISO 2000. I am much more comfortable shooting softball. Thanks for all the comments.


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Jan 11, 2016 13:10 as a reply to  @ greenjeans's post |  #10

that iso is only bad if you don't expose it just right. 1600 was okay on my 10D. I'd hope 3200 on 70d would be okay as well.


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Jan 11, 2016 22:07 |  #11

I coached volleyball for a long time, then gave that up to focus on other things... Started shooting volleyball, and I spent time in the practice gym with a few teams to get familiar with being behind the camera for this sport. It is not easy to just "shoot" as the set/match go along. Pick one athlete or a specific region on the court and work that until you have good pics, then move another athlete or court region. Spending time in the practice gym helps another way... as they warm up and do hitting lines, passing lines, etc - you get to focus on your technique without having to follow the action. Then, as you move to other drills and scrimmages you expand your skills and are more ready for match day...

Enjoy what you are doing - you have a good start - work on timing and capturing the piece of the action that highlights the girls' effort. They will like the output! And remember to capture the attitude and emotions before, during and after play. The players and parents love that aspect!

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Jan 11, 2016 22:18 |  #12

greenjeans wrote in post #17853852 (external link)
I'm going to keep at it. Long season ahead. The 70-200 f4 is the best I have for this and really taking pics for the girls. I should have used f4, but trying to get a little more dof. I probably should use the 70D instead of the 6D for the faster fps and try to deal with the noise in post. The 70D is just terrible above ISO 2000. I am much more comfortable shooting softball. Thanks for all the comments.

I'd choose ISO performance over FPS any day for an indoor sport.


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Jan 13, 2016 19:59 as a reply to  @ NBEast's post |  #13

That's why I have been using the 6D. No comparison to noise vs 70D.


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Jan 15, 2016 09:38 |  #14

greenjeans wrote in post #17853852 (external link)
I'm going to keep at it. Long season ahead. The 70-200 f4 is the best I have for this and really taking pics for the girls. I should have used f4, but trying to get a little more dof.

I think you need less DoF not more. The majority of that extra DoF is going to be behind the plane of focus (and thus behind your subject). One problem with these images is that the backgrounds are very cluttered and that is made worse by the fact that they are in focus due to the DoF.


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Jan 16, 2016 10:51 |  #15

Granddaughter has a tournament in Myrtle Beach this weekend. They start today, but we will not be there until tomorrow afternoon. Never been to this venue for VB before, but it is a very large place. Anxious to try some of the suggestions you guys have offered. Thanks for all the comments.


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