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Jan 12, 2016 14:12 |  #1321

dusik77 wrote in post #17849390 (external link)
did mine about 2-3 weeks ago and nothing yet..

Please email me with your order # : Helen@adorama.com



  
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Jan 12, 2016 16:04 |  #1322

I just ordered one of these on Sunday, I'll let everyone know what I get. I have some questions too.

I don't use the YN-622 system, but I have a YNE3-RX which is basically the same idea but using the Canon RT protocol. I've used this successfully to combine studio strobes and 600ex-rt speedlites, but connecting the YNE3-RX to the strobe via the suppled PC-sync-to-1/8" mini connector cord. This works great, but of course it is only simple triggering of whatever strobe is hooked up.

What I'm wondering now is if I can install the Rovelight 600b's supplied remote on the hotshoe connector of the YNE3-RX and gain any additional functionality (e.g. having the RL respect the "Group" power level set via ST-E3-RT, as opposed to just being triggered). Has anyone tried this with either a YNE3-RX or a YN-622 transceiver?

My current setup is this:

Canon 6D with ST-E3-RT on hotshoe
600ex-rt as wireless radio slaves
YNE3-RX receiver connected to studio strobe via sync cord, just as you'd do with a PocketWizard.
(Neither hotshoe connection on the YNE3-RX is used)

What I would like to try when my RL-600 arrives Thursday is this:

Canon 6D with ST-E3-RT on hotshoe
600ex-rt as wireless radio slaves
YNE3-RX with Rovelight controller in its top hotshoe, no other connections.

What I don't know is if this will work, or if the Rovelight remote controller only functions when in the hotshoe of an actual camera body.

Will it enable HSS also, or does that only function with the following separately purchased remote, mounted directly on the camera: http://www.adorama.com​/FPRRR1TRC.html (external link)

Lastly, anyone try any of this with a Phottix Laso receiver, rather than YN?


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Jan 12, 2016 19:01 |  #1323

HelenOster wrote in post #17855535 (external link)
Please email me with your order # : Helen@adorama.com


done.. thanks Helen..




  
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Jan 12, 2016 19:15 |  #1324

Well I took them apart and found some interesting things. First of all I know squat about electronics but my V2 remote may actually be a V2 remote considering the manufacture date stamped on the PCB. The configurations are also different with the Jinbei and the V1 being identical. There is an extra transistor in the V2 that I recently got.
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Jan 12, 2016 19:43 |  #1325

I've never seen a meander antenna trace perforated like that. I'm an audio guy, not a microwave antenna expert, so I don't know the reason for this or the consequences, just that I've never seen one with anything other than a solid foil trace. If I had a V1 to play around with, I'd be filling in those holes with solder just to see if it improves things.


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Jan 12, 2016 22:02 |  #1326


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Version 2 of mine look like FlowRider, it does say TR-A9 2015 even though the battery door have no marking. But once open, if next the reset button has marking "RST" then it should be version 2. But if you still unsure, you can compare the PCB at the battery door without opening the case up.



  
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Jan 12, 2016 22:52 |  #1327

Contacted Helen today and she got the V2 trigger shipped out to me. Thank you so much Helen :-)




  
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Jan 12, 2016 23:56 |  #1328

Can someone open up their V2 remote so we can compare? It's 3 small Phillips head screws.


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Jan 13, 2016 02:18 |  #1329

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Version 2 of mine look like FlowRider, it does say TR-A9 2015 even though the battery door have no marking. But once open, if next the reset button has marking "RST" then it should be version 2. But if you still unsure, you can compare the PCB at the battery door without opening the case up.

Yeah, my version two has the rst, and it works better. Much better. From these two facts I have deduced that I do in fact have a version 2. In all seriousness though if anybody got a trigger in the mail and the packaging said version two on it, I would think you probably have version two. Just one man's opinion.


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Jan 13, 2016 08:23 |  #1330

absplastic wrote in post #17855657 (external link)
I just ordered one of these on Sunday, I'll let everyone know what I get. I have some questions too.

I don't use the YN-622 system, but I have a YNE3-RX which is basically the same idea but using the Canon RT protocol. I've used this successfully to combine studio strobes and 600ex-rt speedlites, but connecting the YNE3-RX to the strobe via the suppled PC-sync-to-1/8" mini connector cord. This works great, but of course it is only simple triggering of whatever strobe is hooked up.

What I'm wondering now is if I can install the Rovelight 600b's supplied remote on the hotshoe connector of the YNE3-RX and gain any additional functionality (e.g. having the RL respect the "Group" power level set via ST-E3-RT, as opposed to just being triggered). Has anyone tried this with either a YNE3-RX or a YN-622 transceiver?

My current setup is this:

Canon 6D with ST-E3-RT on hotshoe
600ex-rt as wireless radio slaves
YNE3-RX receiver connected to studio strobe via sync cord, just as you'd do with a PocketWizard.
(Neither hotshoe connection on the YNE3-RX is used)

What I would like to try when my RL-600 arrives Thursday is this:

Canon 6D with ST-E3-RT on hotshoe
600ex-rt as wireless radio slaves
YNE3-RX with Rovelight controller in its top hotshoe, no other connections.

What I don't know is if this will work, or if the Rovelight remote controller only functions when in the hotshoe of an actual camera body.

Will it enable HSS also, or does that only function with the following separately purchased remote, mounted directly on the camera: http://www.adorama.com​/FPRRR1TRC.html (external link)

Lastly, anyone try any of this with a Phottix Laso receiver, rather than YN?

I have the same question about hss when using the yne3-Rx. Let me know what the out come is when you try it out.


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Jan 13, 2016 09:38 |  #1331

flowrider wrote in post #17855935 (external link)
Well I took them apart and found some interesting things. First of all I know squat about electronics but my V2 remote may actually be a V2 remote considering the manufacture date stamped on the PCB. The configurations are also different with the Jinbei and the V1 being identical. There is an extra transistor in the V2 that I recently got.
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I purchased my rovelight on Nov. 20. The trigger was not branded or packaged in any manner to distinguish its version, and based on the purchase date Helen was under the impression that it was v.1. After examining the circuit this morning, I believe it is a v.1 as it appears substantially similar to what you've displayed. There are minor differences in my v.1, but nothing close to the changes from what you've shown between your v.1 and v.2 triggers (e.g. the antenna trace).

absplastic wrote in post #17855964 (external link)
I've never seen a meander antenna trace perforated like that. I'm an audio guy, not a microwave antenna expert, so I don't know the reason for this or the consequences, just that I've never seen one with anything other than a solid foil trace. If I had a V1 to play around with, I'd be filling in those holes with solder just to see if it improves things.

I was very curious to see the changes to the antenna. I'm not an expert in any way. My experience is limited to mending/altering/hacki​ng/wrecking electric guitar circuits. It does seem strange that the v.1 is perforated. I'm hopeful that I receive the revised version before I get the itch to solder.


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Jan 13, 2016 09:51 as a reply to  @ Gumby1220's post |  #1332

Hi, A direct question to Elv might be fruitful . . .

Meanwhile, I use Odins and some aspects may be transferable. I put an Odin friendly Rx on the Rovelight/Jinbei directly. (A Strato II Rx is sufficient because they obey Odin TCU timing whether it's normal sync timing or 'HSS-like' early sync timing - ODS too, for that matter.) Most TTL Rx units output the same timing through their pc or mini-phone outlets as they do through their hot-shoe centre pins - but not all - hence; a question to Elv.

On the Jinbei sender; it's a simple single pin item, though it does send power fraction instructions - cycling up or down. The sender itself goes to sleep annoyingly quickly - I use it handheld so I don't have a definitive take on all options to wake it up - I know that a press-and-hold on the send button is one way. Some configurations would rely on an Rx unit to wake up the Jinbei sender - that would need an answer too.

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Jan 13, 2016 12:19 |  #1333

absplastic wrote in post #17855657 (external link)
Will it enable HSS also, or does that only function with the following separately purchased remote, mounted directly on the camera: http://www.adorama.com​/FPRRR1TRC.html (external link)

That is for the Flashpoint series of flashes (It's the CellsII transmitter). It won't communicate directly with the Rovelight.


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Jan 13, 2016 12:57 |  #1334

OceanRipple* wrote in post #17856528 (external link)
On the Jinbei sender; it's a simple single pin item, though it does send power fraction instructions - cycling up or down. The sender itself goes to sleep annoyingly quickly - I use it handheld so I don't have a definitive take on all options to wake it up - I know that a press-and-hold on the send button is one way. Some configurations would rely on an Rx unit to wake up the Jinbei sender - that would need an answer too.

Thanks for this info. The remote having just a single pin means it should work just fine piggybacked onto any other receiver with a hotshoe, it just means that I'll need to keep the resulting combo near me to control the light with, and relying on the V2 transmitter range, rather than closer to the Rovelight and using the RT system for the long-distance link as I'd originally envisioned.


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Jan 13, 2016 13:02 |  #1335

adammazza wrote in post #17856677 (external link)
That is for the Flashpoint series of flashes (It's the CellsII transmitter). It won't communicate directly with the Rovelight.

Ah OK. So this would be yet another controller and remote pairing, basically Flashpoint's version of PW with HyperSync?


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