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Jan 07, 2016 16:17 |  #31

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but given a lot of people prefer laptops (more expensive, slower, less expandable) people may have to pay for the big SSDs.

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Jan 08, 2016 13:23 |  #32

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Some people want to drag a lot of stuff around with them. Games and technical stuff use a lot of space. People seem to also want to drag around entire media libraries. This stuff doesn't all need to be on SSD, but given a lot of people prefer laptops (more expensive, slower, less expandable) people may have to pay for the big SSDs.

Yep. My SSD on my server is tiny in comparison. But I'm rarely ever home and use my computer for school and work, so I need the space and having an external drive to plug in every time I use it just isn't an option.


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Jan 17, 2016 01:41 |  #33

So far with just LR and PS CC 2015 and a few small apps I have 41GB used on my boot drive.
(lol look at the APPS size below. 60GB, that's not right)


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Jan 17, 2016 19:17 |  #34

Though when I have Photoshop open it eats up a lot of drive space for caching. I think the more memory I have the more drive space it will eat up? I only have 8GB right now as 32GB are being shipped for me to install. So yeah, with all my apps, itunes and caching, I could see an easy 100-200GB of storage gone. Boot camping won't be happening on the internal then. I really wish I had gone the 1TB route!

And I noticed that the CC 2015 apps are about 2x the size of the old CC 2014 apps. That's an insane increase in size in 1 year!


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Jan 17, 2016 20:22 as a reply to  @ post 17841790 |  #35

I ended up ordering a 4TB Seagate Backup Fast USB 3 drive. It's relatively affordable ($279 cdn (so probably $179 us)) and offers speeds similar to the Samsung T1 SSD external but with way more storage. It's a portable drive with raided drives inside, only 1 cable, and it gets around 250 MB/s read and write speeds which is fantastic for an external, 3x faster than the old 72000 rpm drives in my old PC, but not quite up to the 1800 MB/s speeds of the internal iMac SSD.

NCIX botched the shipping, so "next business day express" is going to take a good 2 weeks!


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Jan 22, 2016 22:21 as a reply to  @ drisley's post |  #36

Just for reference, I used the Terminal command:

sudo mdutil -E /

to reindex Spotlight and now the Storage information is correct.


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Jan 23, 2016 02:52 |  #37

drisley wrote in post #17862135 (external link)
I ended up ordering a 4TB Seagate Backup Fast USB 3 drive. It's relatively affordable ($279 cdn (so probably $179 us)) and offers speeds similar to the Samsung T1 SSD external but with way more storage. It's a portable drive with raided drives inside, only 1 cable, and it gets around 250 MB/s read and write speeds which is fantastic for an external, 3x faster than the old 72000 rpm drives in my old PC, but not quite up to the 1800 MB/s speeds of the internal iMac SSD.

NCIX botched the shipping, so "next business day express" is going to take a good 2 weeks!

They're 7200rpm drives, and you'll find the drive you ordered has either a 5400 or 7200 rpm drive in it. Bulk transfer speed is pretty good with spinning disks, but the latency is 100 or 1000x higher. That means transferring small number of large files will be pretty fast (raw files), but large numbers of small files (cache) will be slow.


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Jan 24, 2016 00:05 as a reply to  @ tim's post |  #38

Thanks for that info!

I think because this is a portable drive, with only the USB 3 cable (no power cable), the drive has 2 x 5400 rpms. It's insanely fast though! I think that it will do me for now. If I need maybe I will get a smaller SSD drive to use for "work" and then use this one as a fast backup.


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Jan 28, 2016 14:27 as a reply to  @ post 17841563 |  #39

What kind of external RAID?




  
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Jan 29, 2016 02:20 as a reply to  @ KatManDEW's post |  #40

Seagate Backup Fast Plus 4TB USB 3.0
Raid 0.


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Jan 29, 2016 09:06 |  #41

Hey Dris,

I think 500gb for an SSD is extremely large for a main drive. That's a good thing!! I use a 500gb Samsung SSD and it's given me alot of headroom for future program installs. Also I still can keep alot of my LR output folders on the SSD. later I move them to a more traditional larger system.

If you ever speak to those NCIX guys ask them about RMA (Return merchandise authorization) What you will find is a high rate of returns on seagate Baraccuda drives. Personally I do not use consumer grade drives. When it comes to WD "my book", or pre packaged external hard drive setups they typically use the consumer grade drives. This is why they do not cost a whole lot. If you look at a seagate constellation 4tb enterprise drive it costs about $280CDN before tax!! From my research you can use that drive as a standalone in your computer unlike using a Western digital RED 4tb that is intended for NAS application.

My two picks for standalone reliable HDD is the WD black drives or Seagate Constellation enterprise drives. If you do more research there is also a high reliability rate in the HGST drives (hitachi).

When it comes to WD passports or prepackaged Seagate external drives etc.... I take them as redundancy. In my research (RMA figures) they are not excellent drives but better than nothing.

I'd trust an external card read and large 128gb card or even a USB stick before using a WD passport or similar 5volt USB powered small portable drives. The 128gb is not big but it's big enough to safely transfer critical files. In Canada there isn't really a cheap source for any harddrive storage !!!!

As far as RAID's are concerned many IT guys I know prefer sticking with Qnap or Synology. They create firmware revisions always maximizing safety. They also have their own version of antivirus programs running in the background if you choose to run it.


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Jan 31, 2016 01:29 as a reply to  @ AlanU's post |  #42

Thanks AlanU!
Since you're in Vancouver, can you walk down to NCIX and give them a kick in the keester? My drive still hasn't arrived after 3 weeks! So much for "in stock next day shipping"
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Jan 31, 2016 01:57 |  #43

drisley wrote in post #17879921 (external link)
Thanks AlanU!
Since you're in Vancouver, can you walk down to NCIX and give them a kick in the keester? My drive still hasn't arrived after 3 weeks! So much for "in stock next day shipping"
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Wow that's bad!!

I use NCIX and Memory Express for all of my computer needs.

5 days I can see worst scenario but not 3 weeks!! I'd be yellin' :(


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Feb 01, 2016 00:45 |  #44

AlanU wrote in post #17879950 (external link)
Wow that's bad!!

I use NCIX and Memory Express for all of my computer needs.

5 days I can see worst scenario but not 3 weeks!! I'd be yellin' :(

Hah yes, 3 weeks as of right now, and when they re-shiped, they used GROUND shipping for this. It was supposed to be Express Next Day. On top of that I was on hold 30 mins each phone call, x 6 calls, so yeah, 3 hours! And each time I got the same story about "it's been shipped to our warehouse, let's wait a couple days to see what happens". The support team only wanted to pass on the problem to somebody else basically but after 4 calls I went thru the entire sales support team. THEN I was told the drive was "shipped to the wrong customer" and they would have to write an "RMA" for the first drive, THEN ship out the new one to me. Talk about covering your butt for a mistake vs helping out the customer.

I've been buying from NCIX for 10 years, but the way they handled this I would have thought I was their first ever online customer.


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Feb 02, 2016 17:06 as a reply to  @ AlanU's post |  #45

After 3 weeks and finally admitting their error, NCIX shipped out the drive.... using GROUND SHIPPING even though it was supposed to be NEXT DAY EXPRESS. So it will be a good 1 month total waiting for this. ARGH


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