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Jan 24, 2016 17:59 |  #1

Sorry if this has been asked before.

I'm looking to fill the wide angle gap in my line up and would appreciate thoughts on the better option. These are the 4 in my budget, either new or s/h.

Canon 10-22, Sigma 10-20 F3.5, Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6, Tokina 11-20.

Bit of landscape, experimental, general stuff, crowd shots in football stadia etc.

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Jan 24, 2016 19:12 |  #2
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I have had the 10-22. It is an excellent lens. I currently have the Canon 10-18. It is better optically than the 10-22, and it has IS. BUT, it 2/3 stop slower than the 10-22, and has a narrower range. I also have the Tokina 11-20 f/2.8. It is every bit as good as reviewers claim. Excellent sharpness wide open. It is large, and moderately heavy.

I've never had either of the Sigmas you list. If I were only going to have 1 UWA for apsc, I'd have to decide:

1.) Is video important? If yes, get the 10-18.
2.) Is aperture important? If yes, get the 11-20.

I think the only reason to buy the 10-22 is the more useful focal length range. It is more expensive than the others. It is slower than the Tokina. It doesn't have IS.

I bought the 10-18 for video, and the Tokina for aperture. I am happy owing both of them.




  
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Jan 25, 2016 17:45 as a reply to  @ Bassat's post |  #3

Hi Tom. No video isn't important for me.

I'm not keen on 2 lenses. Never had a Tokina before. I just have the impression the quality isn't up to scratch.

Am I being too judgemental?

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Jan 25, 2016 17:53 |  #4

i'm not sure if you can really go wrong with any of the ultra wide angles...i use the 10-20mm f4-5.6 lens, and it's served me fine...it's not great with flare, but i just don't point it at the sun...they all have slight pro's and con's for different uses...if you need the fast aperture, the tokinas are good


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dinny66 wrote in post #17872697 (external link)
Hi Tom. No video isn't important for me.

I'm not keen on 2 lenses. Never had a Tokina before. I just have the impression the quality isn't up to scratch.

Am I being too judgemental?

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Yes, I believe you are. I've been using Tokina lenses since the '70s. At one time, Vivitar contracted Tokina to make some of the best glass available. Lots of the (nest) Vivitar Series 1 glass was manufactured by Tokina. I had a 28-105 and 70-210 f/3.5 that were simply fantastic. (Of course, I was shooting film, not 20MP and pixel peeping.) The build quality of some of that stuff still makes a some of Canon's L-glass seem cheap. Anyway... I have the Tokina 11-20 f/2.8, and I can find no fault with it. The 11-16 and 16-28 are both well respected. I think you are doing yourself a dis-service to not at least consider Tokina.




  
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Jan 25, 2016 19:03 |  #6

I have a 10-22 and serves my purpose for occasional use. However many discussions exist with additional thoughts. Type UWA into the search and you'll find many of these threads.


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Jan 25, 2016 20:55 |  #7

I have the 10-18 mentioned by bassat and have to say it's a great lense, but there are times I wish it had a faster aperture.


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Gumby1220 wrote in post #17872951 (external link)
I have the 10-18 mentioned by bassat and have to say it's a great lense, but there are times I wish it had a faster aperture.

Which is exactly why I bought the Tokina 11-20 f/2.8!




  
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Jan 26, 2016 07:56 |  #9

Bassat wrote in post #17872959 (external link)
Which is exactly why I bought the Tokina 11-20 f/2.8!

Even better would be if Canon combined the best parts of the 10-18 and the 11-20 into one lens to replace the 10-22 with. 10-20/2.8 IS USM plus or minus a mm or two on the long side.


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Jan 26, 2016 12:03 |  #10

FEChariot wrote in post #17873394 (external link)
Even better would be if Canon combined the best parts of the 10-18 and the 11-20 into one lens to replace the 10-22 with. 10-20/2.8 IS USM plus or minus a mm or two on the long side.

That sounds expensive. One of the best things about the 10-18 is the price!




  
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Jan 26, 2016 12:49 as a reply to  @ yellowt2's post |  #11

Hi Tom

I've just had a look at the 11-20 f2. Tokina reviews. Some look better than others. How's your model? Any AF issues?
What's the IQ like?

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Jan 26, 2016 12:50 as a reply to  @ yellowt2's post |  #12

i'd love a 10-24 2.8 stm. and would be ok paying about 1k for it.


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Jan 27, 2016 19:22 |  #13

yellowt2 wrote in post #17873672 (external link)
That sounds expensive. One of the best things about the 10-18 is the price!

Well the 55-250 STM doesn't keep Canon from making a 70-200/2.8 IS II or 100-400 II. There is room for more UWA options. And especially since the 10-18 came around there isn't a whole lot of improvement in upgrading to a 10-22 other than the 2/3 stop while giving up IS for twice the price. A newer 2.8 UWA option would give some product separation.


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Jan 27, 2016 22:35 |  #14

Looking to fill a gap in your line up? Fill it cheap, get the wonderful 10-18 STM. When you have filled that gap and find it a well used lens and can articulate what you dislike about it, then spend more money upgrading it. Until then, just get the cheap lens.




  
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Jan 31, 2016 07:55 |  #15

Got.to.say I.like the look of the new Tokina 11-20 f2.8. Getting good reviews and the 2.8 is very appealing.


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