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Feb 02, 2016 08:53 |  #61
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jwcdds wrote in post #17882380 (external link)
I think the only time Canon will actually start taking the sensor deficiencies (when compared to Sony/Nikon), is when all their CEO starts toting around the Sony A7Rii around for personal photos. :lol:

we all should chip in and buy a a7RII for him, send it to him and with a note: "use this, show it to your engineers, maybe you can learn a thing or two"


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Feb 02, 2016 08:56 as a reply to  @ post 17882787 |  #62

lol no way is this 3 stops better ISO then a 1dx mk1... come on lads


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Feb 02, 2016 08:58 |  #63

jonneymendoza wrote in post #17882901 (external link)
lol no way is this 3 stops better ISO then a 1dx mk1... come on lads

shocked you weren't in here earlier with this proclamation.

looking forward to hearing more about your experience with this camera.


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Feb 02, 2016 09:21 |  #64

I tend to not get super excited until i see images. But Jeff Ascough is a straight up no BS kind of guy. His word is always good. glad i saw what he said. 1-2 stops over a 5D3 with no noise in darks and shadows and you can pull shadows and not introduce noise......thats from a world class wedding photographer.....reall​y more than enough for me


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Feb 02, 2016 09:30 |  #65

To all the Canon EOS 1DXmkII detractors; it's not compulsory, you don't actually have to buy one.


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Feb 02, 2016 09:33 |  #66

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3-stop?

since it was pre-production, I'm assuming all they have was jpg. I remember similar noise improvement claims before and it turns out more so on the *.jpg processing side and not so much in the RAW. While I certainly hope hardware is notably improved... I'm assuming not so much at this point since I would think Canon would have really tooted that horn had it been the case.


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Feb 02, 2016 09:58 |  #67

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #17882905 (external link)
shocked you weren't in here earlier with this proclamation.

looking forward to hearing more about your experience with this camera.

bravo if they have made a 3 stop ISO performance. i have never seen this happen on each generation canon or nikon have released stuff.


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Feb 02, 2016 10:19 |  #68

jonneymendoza wrote in post #17882976 (external link)
bravo if they have made a 3 stop ISO performance. i have never seen this happen on each generation canon or nikon have released stuff.


There Aint no way its 3 stops. If its a stop which would make 25000 usable as a straight off compared to the current 1Dx1 at 12500...then thats pretty big. Anything esle is gravy.

The important problem looks to be addressed. Dark and shadow retention and performance...thats where they lagged and according to Jeff....a huge improvement. 1-2 stops over the 5D3. Jeff is Canons expert with the 5D3. He is one of the best at this stuff. His word is good.

I have found that you have to be able to rely on people that really know what the are doing in this business because its very technical and NO One knows it all.

These Canon and Nikon ambassadors are the best of the best in this business. So when guys like Mautner ( 30 yrs experience and at the top of the game) , Ole J Liodden ( wildlife expert 20 plus yrs ) and Jeff Ascough ( 25 plus years as a top tiered wedding photographer )....who are all experts in the field and all long term Nikon and Canon ambassadors tell you there is 1-2 stops and the sensors and beyond anything we have ever used......I tend to listen. They know what they are talking about.

Most people on the Net ( not saying you johnny ) are trolls and have no Idea WTF they are talking about. Read what these guys have to say. They know.They had it in their hands and they are current ambassadors from the previous model releases.


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Feb 02, 2016 10:25 |  #69

FYI: http://www.imaging-resource.com …-1dx-ii/canon-1dx-iiA.HTM (external link)


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Feb 02, 2016 10:32 |  #70

I will eat a 1DX II if they've improved low light performance by 3 stops over the 1DX. Technology just doesn't advance that fast.

The dynamic range improvements are possible. I'll be interested in seeing those tests.


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Feb 02, 2016 10:35 as a reply to  @ thenextguy's post |  #71

Sure it does, when technology changes dramatically. Canon has been using the same dated basic sensor design for the past decade, and have changed the gaps between sensels and the filters over the sensor, etc up to this point. This has netted them very gradual improvements over time. With a radically new sensor, it is very possible to change things by 2-3 stops, coupled with a more advanced processor. The shadow sensor noise is key here to how well this camera will be received, IMO, by the ISO aficionados.

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Feb 02, 2016 10:39 |  #72

Not sure if the samples have been posted already
http://cweb.canon.jp …1dxmk2/samples/​index.html (external link)


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Feb 02, 2016 10:40 |  #73

thenextguy wrote in post #17883017 (external link)
I will eat a 1DX II if they've improved low light performance by 3 stops over the 1DX. Technology just doesn't advance that fast.

The dynamic range improvements are possible. I'll be interested in seeing those tests.

I'm banking on about 1 stop in RAW. That should be more than doable.

It's possible that they cranked up their .jpg engine to get more out of those images, but even there 3 stops feels like a stretch.

Sample images look great so far. I can't wait for the real deal and real-world results.


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Feb 02, 2016 10:43 |  #74

mkkaczy wrote in post #17883028 (external link)
Not sure if the samples have been posted already
http://cweb.canon.jp …1dxmk2/samples/​index.html (external link)

Full size 25600 JPG, looks pretty good: http://cweb.canon.jp …samples/downloa​ds/003.jpg (external link)

I can easily clean that up and still retain all the detail.


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Feb 02, 2016 11:18 |  #75

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17883019 (external link)
Sure it does, when technology changes dramatically. Canon has been using the same dated basic sensor design for the past decade, and have changed the gaps between sensels and the filters over the sensor, etc up to this point. This has netted them very gradual improvements over time. With a radically new sensor, it is very possible to change things by 2-3 stops, coupled with a more advanced processor. The shadow sensor noise is key here to how well this camera will be received, IMO, by the ISO aficionados.

Video describing the technical differences of this camera from prior models


go to 13:03 in the video

that might be better than sex :lol:

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