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Sensor cleaning disaster, please help!

 
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Feb 04, 2016 04:30 |  #1

I'm on the trip of a lifetime, and bought a used 1DS for the occasion. I obtained dust delete data before leaving, learned that lesson the hard way in the past. Well on reviewing my first day's images, there was quite a lot of dust. I applied the data and...nothing. It didn't help at all, which is strange as it has always been perfectly effective on my 5D. Being prepared for an emergency, I had also bought Eclipse sensor cleaner (GUARANTEED to leave no residue!) and Pec Pads (LINT FREE!) In a word, these products are pure EVIL.

Not only did the cleaner leave what looks like an oil spill on the sensor, but the moment I put the pad down in there, it started shredding into dozens of tiny fibers, getting fibers all over everything. My photos are ruined.

Luckily, I still have my 5D, but it's heartbreaking to have to leave the "new" 1DS in the bag in the greatest photo trip I've ever been on.

Is there anything I can do, any easy post-processing fix I could create and apply to all my images to get rid of this? Or do I need to send it to Canon? I know I need to send it but I mean, is it a brick UNTIL I send it? : ( Dust delete data not only won't work anymore, but it won't even obtain. Not that I think it would have helped in this situation...


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Feb 04, 2016 04:44 |  #2

I've used both the Eclipse and PEC pads with no issues for cleaning my sensors for years.

I assume you kept the pads in the original baggy the came in?




  
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Feb 04, 2016 04:47 |  #3

I did, yes.




  
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Feb 04, 2016 05:27 as a reply to  @ strider42's post |  #4

I don't like Pec Pads.
I was doing some tests with Eclipse and Pec Pads on my lenses and filters and Pec Pads did a poor job.
With Pec Pads I couldn't clean the lens like I would like to - I just could't wipe away the smears left from Eclipse.
The smears on the sensor is harder to see because of the position of the sensor. You might have them but you might don't know that you have them.
Do the test by youself. If you wear glasses just try to clean them with Pec Pads without smearing.
So, for sensor cleaning I use:
-first rocket blower
-then a gel stick
-and if there is stil something on the sensor I have two sensor sticks wrapped with ordinary micro fibre cloth.
I put two drops of Eclipse on first sensor stick and I then wipe the sensor. Then I use dry stick to dry the liquid and wipe
smears.
-at the end a few blows from rocket blower

This is my personal method and it works for me.

Here is a video of a guy cleaning fungus from camera sensor. Chek what he's using to wipe the sensor:

https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=0B8tXe7xjtA (external link)


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Feb 04, 2016 07:59 |  #5

It looks like a lot of it is residue with some dust (lint).

Use a rocket blower to remove as much as you can, then:

IMAGE: http://i.imgur.com/AJiyEKD.png


I've used these with good success, I found the trick to not leaving a smear, smudge or residue was the speed at which you moved it over the sensor. Moving it quickly would leave streaks and residue, slowly and it leaves it perfectly clean.

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See if you can set up a pec pad like this:
IMAGE: http://www.rivercityroad.com/alaska/cleankit.jpg

The residue left on the sensor is all about how much liquid you use and how fast you wipe across the sensor, so it might take a few goes.



  
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Feb 04, 2016 09:11 |  #6

I find keeping the liquid to a minimum and never wiping the sensor twice with the same pad is helpful.




  
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Feb 04, 2016 10:34 |  #7

So it sounds like there isn't anything I can do except try other products or send it in for a cleaning. Well at the moment I have no retries left, I used all my pads, after setting it up exactly as you have pictured above and following the instructions very carefully...so the most relevant part of my question currently is: can I fix my photos?




  
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Feb 04, 2016 10:58 |  #8

Might not be helpful but ive been using eclipse and pec pads for years without any problem either. Like stated, dont use the same swab twice and be careful how much eclipse you use. My sensor is dust free and my lenses look great, no streaks or anything. I usually take a clean pad after using the eclipse on my lenses and wipe any streaks away.

For fixing your photos, i think all you can do is use the spot removal tool in lightroom or something.


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Feb 04, 2016 12:04 |  #9

I've used pec pads and eclipse for 10 years with no issues. You can fix your photos, manually, they won't be perfect.

Sorry to say it, but this is yet another case of people not testing gear before important events.


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Feb 04, 2016 12:44 as a reply to  @ strider42's post |  #10

What do the photos look like when the lens is opened up more? Clearly f22 is bad, but it's not like you only have to shoot at that aperture


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Feb 05, 2016 11:22 as a reply to  @ tim's post |  #11

I wasn't about to go swabbing my sensor prior to it being necessary just to see if it worked! : P




  
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Feb 05, 2016 11:24 as a reply to  @ DreDaze's post |  #12

Not really relevant, I'm shooting landscapes, so I'd never be shooting under f9 or f11. It's quite bad still.

According to a local photography shop, the fact that we are at elevation and in an Arctic climate here, is why the eclipse is leaving a residue. He says if a camera gets dust that can't be removed from air around here, you have to send it in. I've never heard that before, but I had used the sensor wiping method in the past successfully, albeit with a different product.




  
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Feb 05, 2016 11:27 |  #13

strider42 wrote in post #17887014 (external link)
I wasn't about to go swabbing my sensor prior to it being necessary just to see if it worked! : P

I think he was referring, correctly, to getting a used bit of gear and not testing it before "the trip of a lifetime".




  
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Feb 05, 2016 11:29 |  #14

Here's another product you may want to consider...

Dust-Aid Platinum...http://dust-aid.com/08DAplatinum.h​tml (external link)

It's what I use and it works great - very easy to use. I can clean my sensor in less than 5 mins. It is a dry cleaning method and can be taken with you on location. LensRentals uses Dust-Aid in their cleaning process. But unlike LensRentals, I only use the Dust-Aid and skip the blower & brushing. Seems like the sticky stamp process is all I need.

https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=iRW9AmDPqr0 (external link)

Dust-Aid also makes a wet cleaning device call the Dust-Wand, for dust particles that are stuck-on the sensor. So far I have not needed it, since the sticky stamp gets the job done.

Just make sure you get the Platinum version of Dust-Aid. It's the latest and greatest version. I bought mine from a seller on amazon, but it can be bought directly from Dust-Aid's site.


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Feb 05, 2016 13:43 |  #15

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strider42 wrote in post #17887017 (external link)
According to a local photography shop.....

So there's a local photography shop? Then your problems should be solved. Jus get some sensor cleaning stuff from them and clean it again.
I've had bad sensor cleans in the past, that left my sensor looking just like yours (if not worse). I just clean it again, and again, and again if need be. Eventually you get it all off and have a good clean sensor.
No need to "send it in" for a cleaning......ever.

By the way, it's always best to just use a rocket blower for dust.
If it's only dust on there you shouldn't need to do any swabbing - just blast it out! That way you avoid the chance of making a mess of things (as you have done).
Rocket blower is what to use on an everyday basis - swabbing is only for "last resort" situations where you actually have something on there that won't blow off.

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