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Feb 05, 2016 19:50 |  #1

For some reason, I can't edit her in color to my own satisfaction. So black and white actually looks more appealing to me. The 2nd image is unedited except for sizing. I would appreciate any and all criticisms on this one as well as take your own crack at editing it. For the record I used LR5. Thank You.


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Feb 05, 2016 20:42 |  #2

I cant tell for sure but she seems oof. Good job on the crop. Getting rid of the stuff on the far bottom sides was a good call. I think she could use a bit more headroom. I think for the pose her lower leg would have looked better if it was obscured by her thigh.


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Feb 05, 2016 21:31 |  #3

What don't you like about her skin color? I looks OK to me.


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Feb 05, 2016 22:08 |  #4

DThriller wrote in post #17887573 (external link)
I think for the pose her lower leg would have looked better if it was obscured by her thigh.

Interesting. I just opened this thread, and the first thing I thought was kind of the opposite; I'd like to see at least a small bit of her other leg through the triangular space under her. For me, it would look weirder with both lower legs obscured, like she's standing on stumps. But really, I think it's not a natural pose. A person wouldn't pose like this, with both arms tucked in and bearing so much weight. The arm positions make it not believable as a transitional pose, i.e. it's clear she's not crawling towards the camera in a come hither way, because there is no way out of this pose but to back out of it...or face plant off the bed ;-)a

The reason you can't get a satisfying final image though, is the lighting. What little there is is super diffuse, flat ambient lighting, and the model isn't even looking towards it. The result is a photo that doesn't have any shadows to give it depth. The fact that the model has dark hair and eyes is a worst-case scenario for the lack of lighting too. Even the natural light, boudoir style photos you see and admire have careful use of what's available, usually either as dramatic backlight, or flattering light from the front by way of the model looking in the direction of a window or doorway where the light is coming from--not necessarily dead on, but also not side lighting (at least not usually for women). Also of course, many photos that look like available light often aren't.


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Feb 05, 2016 22:56 |  #5

I bet she has beautiful hands.




  
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Feb 05, 2016 22:57 |  #6

How about an "Old Fashioned" look.


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Feb 05, 2016 23:30 |  #7

If I were dead set on making a photo like this into a keeper (no opportunity to re-shoot), I'd start with the RAW and dodge and burn the bejesus out of it, to hand contour the lighting. I just grabbed this small image and did a 5-minute sloppily-masked D&B, and this is how it looked. I'd do something like this, only it carefully over the course of a couple of hours.

In a nutshell, pull highlights wherever you can recover them, and then use dodge and burn (ideally masked level or curve adjustment layers, not necessarily the dodge and burn tools) in Photoshop to deepen shadows and brighten highlights, all with a consistent goal of respecting and accentuating what's there, not really painting new lightsources. Pulling highlight detail from the eyes and hair are of the most critical importance.


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Feb 06, 2016 10:23 |  #8

Like this any better than the 1st one?


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Feb 06, 2016 12:33 |  #9

Bogino wrote in post #17888034 (external link)
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WAY too yellow!


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Feb 06, 2016 13:13 |  #10

She looks rather disengaged in this shot. The pose has a kind of a Lili Von Shtupp feel to it.




  
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Feb 06, 2016 13:28 |  #11

I like the b&w, but as has been mentioned she seems OOF, the second shot would look better IMO in b&w. I do like what rrblint did to the 1st pic.


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Feb 12, 2016 06:36 |  #12

Bogino wrote in post #17887532 (external link)
For some reason, I can't edit her in color to my own satisfaction. So black and white actually looks more appealing to me. The 2nd image is unedited except for sizing. I would appreciate any and all criticisms on this one as well as take your own crack at editing it. For the record I used LR5. Thank You.
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i think what you are struggling with in the color version is the mixed lighting situation. The strong incandescent on the right vs light with a bluish tint coming from the left. Since these colors are opposites on the color wheel you end up with a grayish-blah color when they mix that is made to look worse by the strong yellow on the wall.


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Feb 12, 2016 06:47 |  #13

i just did a quick edit on the original, if you would like me to show you what I did, let me know and I will post it.


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