mike_311 wrote in post #17890032
I've come to the conclusion that I cant use my 135. I love the look, but its too long and handshake is a real issue for me. I'm much better with my 85. the focal length is perfect for me. but the 135 produces the look i want so i struggle with it.
I'm thinking about getting an 85/1.2 but im not sure I want to pay the premium for it. I could sell both my 85/1.8 and the 135L but i'd rather keep the 135.
The 85/1.8 is solid but i'm looking for something give a bit dreamier look when shooting wide open. is the 85/1.2 my only worthwhile option or does someone other than canon make a solid alternative. I'm also not opposed to say a 70-200/2.8 IS either...
Well, 135 is so niche, you can only go wider or longer. You just said "it's too long" and then you're saying a 200mm might work. So, is it too long in the sense of shutter speed needs, or is it too long for working distnace needs? Makes a big difference. While you can get away with slower shutter on the 70-200 F2.8L II, it weighs a lot more, so you have to consider that. If you already have issues with shaking hands, do you think it will be difficult to hold a bigger, heavier lens, despite having IS that helps with the shutter speed need?
135L (subject at 20 feet, F2, DOF is barely 1 foot (0.79)
85 F1.4 (subject at 15 feet, F1.4, DOF is barely 1 foot (0.79ft)
So between working distance and faster aperture, you can get the same DOF.
As for amount of blur, the 85 F1.4 at F1.4 will produce more blur at the same distance as the 135L at F2, from 1 meter out to 30 meters, after 30 meters, the 135L will finally produce more blur, however, 30 meters is probably not your working distance.
The longer focal length will suck the background forward just a little bit more.
Other than that, you can recreate the "look" very closely.
I would look at the Sigma 85mm F1.4 at half the cost of the 85L. Also, compare the 85L and Sigma 85 F1.4 at F1.4 together, there are tons of threads about it, they're so similar it's almost a wash really, assuming both are good copies and both in proper focus, etc.