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Feb 08, 2016 18:15 |  #61

The 7D2 has a lot of options for modifying the AF Servo focus tracking function of the camera. It takes a while to read through and understand how to set it up for various scenarios. Coming from the 7D, that was the big difference in terms of new learning for me.


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Feb 08, 2016 18:35 |  #62

power shot wrote in post #17889566 (external link)
now this post is quite ironic
by what you say, its taken you "last few months!" to figure out the 7d2 is "shaping up rather better than expected in the AF department"
but on the other hand, you were handed someone else's Nikon, for what? maybe a few minutes of shooting and that was now enough for you to go around the forum here preaching on how the D4/D4s doesn't even compare to your 1dx
now THAT there is funny!!

Approximately an hour the first time and a bit longer the second (later model cameras). Unfortunately is's not funny and it did only take me a few minutes to see the differences in the AF - I thinks that is disappointing not funny, don't you? I should state that the Nikon cameras were set up by two gentlemen who are significantly better bird/wildlife photographers than I am so I have to assume that their AF settings were on or close to the mark. The purpose of the exercise was for them to try my camera and lens which had been set up by me (oh dear!). On the first occasion that was "out of the box" as far as AF was concerned and "Case 5" on the second. I was simply using their gear to have something to do whilst they tried my gear and yes I quickly found that I was not bowled over by the AF. I don't have very much experience of Nikons - however the owners did. Within a very short time they could see (and use) the AF superiority of the 1DX and were not very happy, but very polite - they are nice guys.

As to the weather! I have had the 7D2 since early December and have used it (in the field) on 3 occasions and only once in reasonable light - so no I will not give a definitive opinion on how good or bad it is! I can say that on it's first outing in absolutely appalling light and a little haze it did at least only miss focus on 12 out of just over 200 images of Short Eared Owls in flight so it has promise. Pity the images were crap but no camera would have got worthwhile images that day! AF case settings were out of the box.

You are correct though it would have been more informative if I posted the Nikon owners thoughts on the 1DX AF as they know their cameras better but were totally new to the 1DX but still found it somewhat faster, more accurate and with better tracking - their opinion not mine. I thought there was less difference than they did.


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Feb 09, 2016 13:38 |  #63

johnf3f wrote in post #17890840 (external link)
Approximately an hour the first time and a bit longer the second (later model cameras). Unfortunately is's not funny and it did only take me a few minutes to see the differences in the AF - I thinks that is disappointing not funny, don't you? I should state that the Nikon cameras were set up by two gentlemen who are significantly better bird/wildlife photographers than I am so I have to assume that their AF settings were on or close to the mark. The purpose of the exercise was for them to try my camera and lens which had been set up by me (oh dear!). On the first occasion that was "out of the box" as far as AF was concerned and "Case 5" on the second. I was simply using their gear to have something to do whilst they tried my gear and yes I quickly found that I was not bowled over by the AF. I don't have very much experience of Nikons - however the owners did. Within a very short time they could see (and use) the AF superiority of the 1DX and were not very happy, but very polite - they are nice guys.

As to the weather! I have had the 7D2 since early December and have used it (in the field) on 3 occasions and only once in reasonable light - so no I will not give a definitive opinion on how good or bad it is! I can say that on it's first outing in absolutely appalling light and a little haze it did at least only miss focus on 12 out of just over 200 images of Short Eared Owls in flight so it has promise. Pity the images were crap but no camera would have got worthwhile images that day! AF case settings were out of the box.

You are correct though it would have been more informative if I posted the Nikon owners thoughts on the 1DX AF as they know their cameras better but were totally new to the 1DX but still found it somewhat faster, more accurate and with better tracking - their opinion not mine. I thought there was less difference than they did.

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Feb 09, 2016 16:36 |  #64

It seems some have a hard time swallowing any deficiency in AF. These all are AF issues quoted from dpreview.com comparative review of the high end interchangeable lens cameras

Sony A7R
What we don't (like):

 Slow AF in low light due to CDAF only

Sony A7S
What we don't (like):

 Slow AF in low light due to CDAF only
 Lower Raw dynamic range than a7

Sony A7SII
What we don't (like):

 Contrast Detect AF struggles in low light and with low contrast subjects

Nikon Df
What we don't (like):

 Disappointing AF performance in moderate to low light

Nikon D750
What we don't (like):

 Limited, centrally-concentrated cross-type AF points
 AF frame coverage is limitedoor live view / movie AF

Nikon D810
What we don't (like):

 Low light AF significantly worse than competition
 Limited, centrally-concentrated cross-type AF points

Canon 5DIII
What we don't:

 AF subject tracking capabilities significantly lag behind peers

The new 5DS and A7RII had no AF issues that they mentioned.


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Feb 09, 2016 17:21 |  #65

Bob_A wrote in post #17889758 (external link)
The Canon 24-70 V2 only edges the new Nikon dead in the center. 1/3 from center, where most of us compose our subject, the Nikon is sharper.

Not according to real tests: http://www.the-digital-picture.com …omp=0&FLIComp=0​&APIComp=0 (external link)




  
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Feb 10, 2016 11:09 as a reply to  @ post 17888535 |  #66

Just wait until the 5D Mk4's release!




  
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