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Feb 09, 2016 13:56 |  #346

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You can only achieve that when u shoot only one single CFAST card in the slot as the CF slot with a card inside will slow down the FPS(what is your take on this?)

Also USB C should have been implemented and there are plenty who have requested for this to be part of the camera.

It is advertised as up to 14 fps. You can't get 14 fps while shooting with a shutter speed of 1/4th of a second either, and that is expected. If it can hit 14fps at Canon's specified settings (1/1000th, wide open, < ISO 51200, CFast, LP-E14 battery) then I am fine.

Who requested USB C to be part of the camera? I have not read that anywhere. Sports pros don't download images off camera via USB -- they just take the card out and use a card reader. USB-C is also not as useful as Ethernet (which both the 1DX2 and the D5 has) for remote shooting and downloading either.




  
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Feb 09, 2016 15:06 |  #347

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Who requested USB C to be part of the camera? .

It is USB 3, which should be very fast.


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Feb 09, 2016 16:21 |  #348

chuckmiller wrote in post #17891952 (external link)
It is USB 3, which should be very fast.

I think it does come with the USB 3 Micro-B connector, which is way the remote release connector is moved to the other side.




  
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Feb 09, 2016 17:25 |  #349

frankchn wrote in post #17891829 (external link)
It is advertised as up to 14 fps. You can't get 14 fps while shooting with a shutter speed of 1/4th of a second either, and that is expected. If it can hit 14fps at Canon's specified settings (1/1000th, wide open, < ISO 51200, CFast, LP-E14 battery) then I am fine.

Who requested USB C to be part of the camera? I have not read that anywhere. Sports pros don't download images off camera via USB -- they just take the card out and use a card reader. USB-C is also not as useful as Ethernet (which both the 1DX2 and the D5 has) for remote shooting and downloading either.

what, you saying I can't get 14fps when I have set the shutter speed to 1/2s. I wont 14FPS no matter what shutter speed I have the camera set too, gee canon get with it. I think they are going backwards cause it can't even do this. Gezzzzz :evil: :mrgreen:

ok now being more serious, I am one of those in favour of USB-C. The connector allows more than just a way to transfer photos from the camera. While this camera is designed for those that require action, it's not just sports that require this. Wildlife photographers also require speed and you can say that even a photojournalist could be a user for this type of camera.

The USB-C connector is faster than USB3. it takes up less space in the device and it can allow the deviced to be charged via this cable. I can forsee a usb-c hard drive with battery that you can plug in to the the camera and transfer photos from the cards to the HDD while still taking the photos. Could be a way to backup photos on the go and also not redcuing the power on the camera.


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Feb 09, 2016 17:28 |  #350

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what, you saying I can't get 14fps when I have set the shutter speed to 1/2s. I wont 14FPS no matter what shutter speed I have the camera set too, gee canon get with it. I think they are going backwards cause it can't even do this. Gezzzzz :evil: :mrgreen:

If you have 1/2s shutter speed, the most you will get is 2fps. You cannot possibly get 14 fps.


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Feb 09, 2016 17:36 |  #351

Mark0159 wrote in post #17892144 (external link)
what, you saying I can't get 14fps when I have set the shutter speed to 1/2s. I wont 14FPS no matter what shutter speed I have the camera set too, gee canon get with it. I think they are going backwards cause it can't even do this. Gezzzzz :evil: :mrgreen:

I think we may have to wait for the 1DX Mk4 for the "Time Compression" feature:twisted:


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Feb 09, 2016 17:39 as a reply to  @ johnf3f's post |  #352

Yes, I can totally see 15 fpdps (15 frames per dimension per second).


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Feb 09, 2016 17:39 as a reply to  @ Mark0159's post |  #353

That's definitely true, but I suspect we will see USB-C in lower level cameras first before making its way up to the flagship.




  
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Feb 09, 2016 17:48 |  #354

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17892148 (external link)
If you have 1/2s shutter speed, the most you will get is 2fps. You cannot possibly get 14 fps.

(okay, so that is what it feels like when you aren't humourous, don't try comprehend the reply and take it at face value... it feels so wrong) :)

Actually, you can.

Read the sensor 14 times a second. Store them in buffer. For a half-second exposure, add frames 1-7 together and save that as a RAW. For the next half-second exposure, add frames 2-8. For the next one, add frames 3-9, and so on. Each exposure is half a second long, but they're overlapping each other, for a total of 14 frames per second.

Obviously, it'd take specialised firmware to do that, but, with an electronic shutter, there's no reason you couldn't do it.




  
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Feb 09, 2016 17:53 |  #355

Who let the funsucker in? :( :lol:

(Yes, I am sure you are right, but we were just having some fun! I would shoot in video mode and pull out 1/2 second's worth of frames and merge them. :))


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Feb 09, 2016 17:57 |  #356

shadowblade thinks outside the box, kudos to him. Come to think of it, that feature could come in handy if you're trying to time some slower shutter items without constant retakes.


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Feb 09, 2016 18:52 |  #357

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17892190 (external link)
Who let the funsucker in? :( :lol:

(Yes, I am sure you are right, but we were just having some fun! I would shoot in video mode and pull out 1/2 second's worth of frames and merge them. :))

I wouldn't do it with video - I'd like to end up with a full-resolution, uncompressed (or losslessly-compressed) RAW, not something restricted to 1080p or 4k.

You'd need to use a fully electronic shutter, though.




  
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Feb 09, 2016 19:16 |  #358

Shadowblade wrote in post #17892180 (external link)
Actually, you can.

Read the sensor 14 times a second. Store them in buffer. For a half-second exposure, add frames 1-7 together and save that as a RAW. For the next half-second exposure, add frames 2-8. For the next one, add frames 3-9, and so on. Each exposure is half a second long, but they're overlapping each other, for a total of 14 frames per second.

Obviously, it'd take specialised firmware to do that, but, with an electronic shutter, there's no reason you couldn't do it.

That's what I was going to say, but you already said it.

Another twist I had in mind was that the camera could have a fast helper CPU that examined the frames for stability, and grouped them based on which ones added together sharply. So, if you shook the camera, you'd get individual frames (or you set an option not to bother with them), but when the scene is stable for 3 or 11 or however many frames, it added them together.




  
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Feb 09, 2016 19:22 |  #359

John Sheehy wrote in post #17892273 (external link)
That's what I was going to say, but you already said it.

Another twist I had in mind was that the camera could have a fast helper CPU that examined the frames for stability, and grouped them based on which ones added together sharply. So, if you shook the camera, you'd get individual frames (or you set an option not to bother with them), but when the scene is stable for 3 or 11 or however many frames, it added them together.


you guys are talking greek right now :-P:oops:


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Feb 09, 2016 19:29 |  #360

Party animals I say! :)


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