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Feb 11, 2016 12:53 |  #46

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Thanks! Yea, I'm not even gonna bring my speedlites.

uh, (in my best john mcenroe voice) you cannot be serious.


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Feb 11, 2016 12:56 |  #47

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uh, (in my best john mcenroe voice) you cannot be serious.

I second this, how in the heck can you go photograph a wedding at 4pm in a barn WITHOUT lights. If that's your plan just stay home, seriously I am not the type to be mean or say you can't do it but seriously ..... gonna not even bring my lights ....... Shooting RAW will not be your saving grace. Using lights will be your saving grace.




  
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Feb 11, 2016 13:27 |  #48

I thought the goal was to shoot without lights? Your right, though. I should at least take em incase I end up needing them


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Feb 11, 2016 13:28 |  #49

Oh, this is a wedding and not just an engagement shoot in a barn at 4pm. That's pretty unfortunate.


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Feb 11, 2016 13:28 as a reply to  @ Cormac's post |  #50

What color is the ceiling?


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Feb 11, 2016 13:37 |  #51

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What color is the ceiling?

I'm assuming it's not white. If it were I'd bounce off there and no issue!


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Feb 11, 2016 13:38 as a reply to  @ Cormac's post |  #52

You got cheap umbrellas, transmitters/receivers​, and stands or clamps to go with the speedlights?


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Feb 11, 2016 13:38 |  #53

idkdc wrote in post #17894536 (external link)
What color is the ceiling?

Bad idea me thinks. The ceiling is most likely dark and high. Waste of batteries and I doubt he would have enough batteries to use the ceiling for very long anyway.

Bounce card and open the doors if they will let you


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Feb 11, 2016 13:41 |  #54

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Bad idea me thinks. The ceiling is most likely dark and high. Waste of batteries and I doubt he would have enough batteries to use the ceiling for very long anyway.

Bounce card and open the doors if they will let you

I wouldn't be asking what color it was if I thought it was a good idea. Bounce card will still be a hard on-axis light.


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Feb 11, 2016 13:42 |  #55

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I wouldn't be asking what color it was if I thought it was a good idea. Bounce card will still be a hard on-axis light.

Yes, but use a bounce card that is at least larger than the flash. Best chance at softening the light without getting complicated with OCF.


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Feb 11, 2016 13:48 |  #56

There's a lot of negativity in this discussion already… I'll try to focus on guidance to stay positive, here are some thoughts.

I was in a similar situation with some friends last year. I'm not a wedding photographer, but my friends were on a budget and asked for a favor. Small wedding, in a log cabin style chapel without lights. It was a small chapel, so I brought a flash on a light stand with an umbrella. Ended up shooting at f4, ISO 400-800, but it was a small room. The photos weren't perfect, but the couple were happy with them in the end.

It's a lot of stress, so just try to stay focused. Definitely try to get in the barn before the wedding day. Try to time it around 4pm to see how much light you have to work with during that part of the day. Take a friend with you and spend some time taking photos of them. Try to do bounce flash. It will probably turn out tinted really brown but you never know. Wood-colored casts are hard to correct with white balance. Maybe try tilting the flash upward but toward the subject to bounce but also hit them with a little direct light to cancel out the tint.

Since the barn is pretty big and you have limited equipment, I would stick to on-camera flash. Don't go without a flash, because a direct flash photo at proper exposure is better than a blurry non-lit photo any day. Keep your shutter speed above 1/60 because people will be moving around. Set the flash to sync on second curtain if you have that adjustment.

Renting a camera/lens isn't a bad way to go, but just make sure you get the equipment a few days before the wedding so you have time to learn the camera. You don't want to go into the day not being comfortable with the equipment you are using.

At a barn, there will be a lot of nice backgrounds for posed formals. Try to get some outside where there is still a lot of light, so if the ceremony shots are dark, at least they'll have some outside shots to remember the day. Take the formals before the wedding starts, so you'll have more light before dusk sets in.

As long as everyone has reasonable expectations, it should go fine for you. Practice a lot before the big day. Try to pair up with another photographer to be a second-shooter before-hand so you are more comfortable with what to expect.


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Feb 11, 2016 13:52 |  #57

One more thought on renting equipment. The couple asked you to do their wedding because they were happy with the photos you take with your current equipment. Don't feel the need to spend a bunch of money to rent pro equipment that you probably won't be able to use to full extent (while I'm sure you can probably squeeze every last drop of performance out of your T3).


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Feb 11, 2016 13:52 as a reply to  @ post 17894471 |  #58

Most speedlights have a focus assist beam. I can take a picture in my garage TOTAL darkness. Using the focus assist on my speedlight, my camera will lock focus.

Also be aware that only photographers care about noise *LOL* Nothing wrong with having a a noise reduction plan :)


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Feb 11, 2016 14:03 |  #59

My comments were never intended to have you not using lights. If I had your gear my plan would be to have a flash on camera, one with a focus assist. Previous comments are correct a well exposed image with flash is better then a blurry underexposed image with lots of noise.

And dont be fooled a little noise is ok, a lot and people other then photographers will start to care.




  
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Feb 11, 2016 14:11 |  #60

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And dont be fooled a little noise is ok, a lot and people other then photographers will start to care.

Agreed. With my 450D I tried to use ISO 800 or less, but went to ISO 1600 if I needed to. The T3 probably is a bit better at high ISO, so going to 1600 would probably be just fine if you need to freeze motion in the frame.


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