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Need help. Photographer is talent or training

 
phucmaplun
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Feb 19, 2016 15:57 |  #1

Dear friends,

I love freedom i do not want to have a boss. Could you share how to make money with photos. My family told me that i am not creative guy and they give me advice to do another jobs.

Can i have question? Photographer is just for artist or anyone can become the best photographer by practicing more

Please give me some advises

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Feb 19, 2016 16:12 |  #2

...you are in luck, i have a great uncle of a cousin's friend who just inherited a fortune. He is willing to provide training, but you must provide your address, and check donation to my bank account in nigeria!




  
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Feb 19, 2016 16:25 |  #3

There's no easy answer. Talent, reading, & practice all help.
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Feb 19, 2016 17:27 |  #4

Take some photos of potatoes, they sell very well.


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Feb 19, 2016 17:31 |  #5

If you want to make money in photography, buy cameras cheap and sell them for more than you paid. Its hard to take your request seriously as you post no photos and dont describe any background in photography. As absurd as it might sound people dont pay you until you can actually demonstrate repeatable skills.




  
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Feb 19, 2016 17:33 |  #6

How old are you? You'll always have a boss, either directly or passively. You may not have someone telling you to be at work on time or to do this or do that, but they'll always be an outside source nudging you if you plan to be succesful. In your case, are you good enough, are you artistic enough, is the thing you say you want to do what people are willing to pay you enough to live off of?




  
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Feb 20, 2016 11:26 |  #7

phucmaplun wrote in post #17904930 (external link)
Dear friends,

I love freedom i do not want to have a boss. Could you share how to make money with photos. My family told me that i am not creative guy and they give me advice to do another jobs.

Can i have question? Photographer is just for artist or anyone can become the best photographer by practicing more

Please give me some advises

Best

Well, you're family just "bossed" you. If you're serious, then do what you want.

How did you even come to photography as a living as an option?
What drew you to it?
Do you have the capital to start a business?
What is your location and market that you're wanting to get into?
What kind of photography are you wanting to get into that earns a living where you're located?
Have you ever run a business?

Skill & talent and artistic sense as well as technical sense are all part of photography. That's not what's important.

What's important is you're trying to make it a business, to make money. And that takes business sense, marketing, marketing, marketing, and money handling. You can be the most talented, skilled photographer and never make money for it, if you try to run a business and you're clueless with how to run a business. If that's the case, you hire a manager for yourself.

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Feb 20, 2016 12:45 |  #8

'Photography' is actually a highly varied discipline, whose requirements (of the the photography) are also highly varied!

The practice of these areas of photography, for example, are all quite different from each other in the skills and types of talent needed...

  • photojournalism
  • medical photography
  • family portraiture
  • glamour & boudoir photography
  • weddings/event photography
  • sports photography
  • theater/stage photography
  • industrial photography
  • product photography

    There are skills and knowledge, there is artistry, and there is aptitude, all coming into play in different mixes.

Some are totally technical in content, with little 'creative' or 'artistic' (industrial, medical, newpaper photojounalism)
Some lighting skills are very different, depending upon subject matter (family portraiture vs glamor/boudoir vs. product photography vs. lighting automobiles)
Some require the ability to rapidly solve photographic problems 'on your feet' vs. less time demanding requirements (weddings vs. studio product photography)
etc. etc.
Some call into play different aptitudes in the photographer

If I asked you to describe a 'successful business person', you would similarly describe a lot of different kinds of knowledge and skills and aptitudes, and occasionally artistry comes into play... a Wall Street tycoon is very different from a Silicon Valley genius or a Broadway stage producer.

you need to examine yourself and assess the breadth of your knowledge and skills, how artistic/creative you are (or not), and what your aptitudes are which can contribute to your greater success within ONE narrower field within the broad realm of 'photography'. And then fill in your identified personal gaps as necessary.

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Feb 22, 2016 12:04 |  #9

No amount of training can make up for natural talent. On the flip side of that comment, very few have the natural talent to never require training past the basics. The business end of any commercial enterprise almost always requires training.

further, no one sane person that has ever worked for themselves would say they have no boss. Well at least in photography or some other creative endeavor where paying customers are needed. Often you have many bosses. When the bills are coming due and a customer says he wants you to come do some work at 5 AM sunday morning, you know where you'll be? You'll wherever he has asked you to be at 4:50 am wondering where that so called freedom went.

sure you have the ability to tell him to get lost, but there will be another right behind him asking something else of you.

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Feb 22, 2016 13:14 |  #10

If you're satisfied with mediocre income...go for it... http://work.chron.com …ry-photographer-7219.html (external link)


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Feb 24, 2016 15:55 |  #11

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chauncey wrote in post #17908444 (external link)
If you're satisfied with mediocre income...go for it... http://work.chron.com …ry-photographer-7219.html (external link)

I would love for my income to get all the way up to "mediocre" someday. That is what I aspire to!
Ahhh....the realities of being a wildlife photographer shooting "on spec".

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Feb 25, 2016 05:47 |  #12

chauncey wrote in post #17908444 (external link)
If you're satisfied with mediocre income...go for it... http://work.chron.com …ry-photographer-7219.html (external link)

After reading that link I'm not sure how any of you pro photographers weigh over a hundred pounds and have anything more than a tarp over your heads at night.
Good god 51k in NYC just isn't going to get it done, it's really got to be a love for photography to go down that road I geuss.




  
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Feb 25, 2016 09:46 |  #13

NYS Photo wrote in post #17912177 (external link)
After reading that link I'm not sure how any of you pro photographers weigh over a hundred pounds and have anything more than a tarp over your heads at night.
Good god 51k in NYC just isn't going to get it done, it's really got to be a love for photography to go down that road I geuss.

One half of that will easily "get it done" in many parts of the U.S.
And it is quite nice to be "free" and not have to show up at a job each day.

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Feb 25, 2016 10:50 |  #14
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Keep your day job...hehehehe...

Those made it (managed to make a living from it) wasn't easy and a lot to do with luck and maybe even education. For most of us, we are lucky if someone is willing to pay for our photos. Most of the time, you just do it because you love photography.

You should be shooting for several years first in variety of subjects and situations before even thinking about trying to make money from your photography. You have to know your gear. You have to develop your style. You have to understand the entire workflow in order to produce consistent results from one photo to another. You must know how. Just because you have a handful of keepers out of hundreds of shots and you have no ideas how they got there.....you are going to fail.....:)


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Feb 25, 2016 12:26 |  #15

It was fifty years ago when I was trying to get my $hit together that I said,
"I want a family and, enough income to support to support them"...education was needed and, career selection.
That decision process has not changed and will not will involve photography as a mainstay.
Photography is a great hobby...not a wise career choice.


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