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Official specs: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II

 
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Feb 18, 2016 04:25 |  #586

I'm looking at the specs of the just-announced 80D (45 AF points (all cross type), 27 of which will work at f/8, and (I assume just the centre point) down to -3EV). In terms of cross type points, number of f/8 points, and low light AF that's (on paper) better than the 5D3 and original 1Dx.

That surely bodes well for a 5D4; I thought they might use the 1Dx II AF system but, say, leave just the centre point at f/8, but it doesn't even look like they could do that now (otherwise it'd look worse than the 80D in that area). I guess competition is good for consumers. Who'd have thought it eh? ;-)a


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Feb 18, 2016 08:54 |  #587

Well, 80D is OT in this thread, that said, if in fact the spec is correct,

(lenses with maximum apertures of f/8 or higher, and some lenses with extenders attached may operate at a maximum of 27 points)
from Canon USA

the above would mean AF @ f/8 which in and of itself would be a big leap for the XXD line, and I have not seen specified.


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Feb 18, 2016 09:02 |  #588

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17903147 (external link)
and I have not seen specified.

https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=17903096


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Feb 19, 2016 18:22 |  #589

This is more than likely a repost (since I'm always late to the party), but in case someone else didn't see it, this is worth a look.

http://www.raymondphan​g.com …-and-high-iso-comparison/ (external link)

It shows a 3-stop underexposure between pre-production 1dx2 vs. a 1dx at iso100. The shadow recovery is... dare I say it, Sony-esque. :lol:

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Feb 19, 2016 18:29 as a reply to  @ jwcdds's post |  #590

Wow. Impressive.


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Feb 19, 2016 19:29 |  #591

David Arbogast wrote in post #17905071 (external link)
Wow. Impressive.

Indeed. My mind is blown. (Hm... no emoji for mindblown. They need to make one).


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Feb 19, 2016 20:13 |  #592

That actually looks to be at least 2 stops better in the shadows, just look at the section under the table, the 1DX starts to get the blotchy blobs of color, the 1DX2 is just clean. Perhaps this 2 stop improvement won't be seen across the board at the various ISO levels, but definitely in the DR arena where you start to pull up shadows. This is going to be an outstanding camera for wedding shooters, as well as landscape and architectural shooters.


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Feb 19, 2016 20:34 |  #593

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17905177 (external link)
That actually looks to be at least 2 stops better in the shadows, just look at the section under the table, the 1DX starts to get the blotchy blobs of color, the 1DX2 is just clean. Perhaps this 2 stop improvement won't be seen across the board at the various ISO levels, but definitely in the DR arena where you start to pull up shadows. This is going to be an outstanding camera for wedding shooters, as well as landscape and architectural shooters.

Based on what I have seen so far, they are somewhat going to hide the information in the ISO settings - i.e. I think the base 100 ISO is actually 'underrated'. If you search for and pull up the 1Dx vs 1DX II pictures, the ones with the hockey goalie in the dark arena with see that new 1Dx II is swa lest lousy.


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Feb 19, 2016 23:12 |  #594

jwcdds wrote in post #17905058 (external link)
This is more than likely a repost (since I'm always late to the party), but in case someone else didn't see it, this is worth a look.

http://www.raymondphan​g.com …-and-high-iso-comparison/ (external link)

It shows a 3-stop underexposure between pre-production 1dx2 vs. a 1dx at iso100. The shadow recovery is... dare I say it, Sony-esque. :lol:

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I ordered last week an they said " hopefully April 26th


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Feb 19, 2016 23:16 |  #595

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I ordered last week an they said " hopefully April 26th

I'm impressed that you can get that much info out of them.

I ordered in the first minutes after the announcement, well before their emails arrived. Still all I get is that I'm early on the list and that's better than I've gotten for previous pre-orders! :)


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Feb 19, 2016 23:50 |  #596

Erik S. Klein wrote in post #17905293 (external link)
I'm impressed that you can get that much info out of them.

I ordered in the first minutes after the announcement, well before their emails arrived. Still all I get is that I'm early on the list and that's better than I've gotten for previous pre-orders! :)


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Feb 20, 2016 00:15 |  #597

Andy Rouse---25000 Iso shots...insanely good stuff

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Feb 20, 2016 03:34 |  #598

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17905177 (external link)
That actually looks to be at least 2 stops better in the shadows, just look at the section under the table, the 1DX starts to get the blotchy blobs of color, the 1DX2 is just clean. Perhaps this 2 stop improvement won't be seen across the board at the various ISO levels, but definitely in the DR arena where you start to pull up shadows. This is going to be an outstanding camera for wedding shooters, as well as landscape and architectural shooters.

Based on Exmor sensor graphs, you'd expect a "great" result from Canon to show a couple of stops at ISO 100, then tailing off to where they were (and where Sony is) around ISO 800 (where read noise is no longer the main issue). I.e. matching Sony somewhat. You're not realistically going to see multi-stop shadow improvement at ISO 800 unless they've done something really groundbreaking.


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Feb 20, 2016 03:45 |  #599

umphotography wrote in post #17905315 (external link)
Andy Rouse---25000 Iso shots...insanely good stuff

http://www.andyrouse.c​o.uk/index.php?b=1&cur​rentpage=1 (external link)

Great images, but talk of pattern noise in shadows in high ISO shots doesn't make that much sense; by that time other sources of noise have drowned out the read noise issues (hence Canon being competitive at high ISO even with their "traditional" shadow problems).

It may just be that they've improved noise across the board (though if he was using jpegs then it may partly be better noise reduction in camera).


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Feb 20, 2016 03:50 |  #600

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Is CPS of any benefit for the amateur like me...never made a penny off photography and dont plan to
but have a few EOS bodies (T2i,6D,7Dii,1Div) and several whites (300/2.8,400DOii,500/f​4)....
Reason I ask is I plan to add 1DXii this summer.

The silver membership isn't all that expensive. CSP does a great job of turning service requests around really quick. They do an outstanding job of cleaning, calibrating and repairs if necessary at a discount over non CSP owners.

I was a member before I started making money as a photog. I've always found CSP to be a good value and insurance policy for all of my gear.


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