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Feb 20, 2016 00:27 |  #13336

I hadn't seen the comparitive reviews showing SY 135 as superior to 135L...interesting. This from DXO, Photozone, or somewhere else?


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Feb 20, 2016 00:29 |  #13337

vinmunoz wrote in post #17905295 (external link)
agree. for me 35, 85 and 135.

My choice would be similar; I prefer 24 or 28mm, 50mm and 100 to 135mm primes. My a7S go to kit consists of my FE 28mm, C/Y Zeiss (or Yashica ML) 50mm and my Rokinon 85mm (because I don't yet own a 100-135mm prime that equals it's quality) :)


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Feb 20, 2016 00:42 |  #13338

that's why i didn't bother with the 35 because of my 28mm. a bit wider. I like it. so it's gonna be 28, 85 and 135 for me. I'll keep my FD20mm because it's cheap(but good) and i do landscapes/interiors once in a while.


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Feb 20, 2016 00:49 |  #13339

vinmunoz wrote in post #17905330 (external link)
that's why i didn't bother with the 35 because of my 28mm. a bit wider. I like it. so it's gonna be 28, 85 and 135 for me. I'll keep my FD20mm because it's cheap(but good) and i do landscapes/interiors once in a while.

That's a nice set. I have a collection of lenses that's growing on ridiculous, but most of them aren't worth enough to even bother selling... but I still use them from time to time :)


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Feb 20, 2016 01:52 |  #13340

David Arbogast wrote in post #17905323 (external link)
I hadn't seen the comparitive reviews showing SY 135 as superior to 135L...interesting. This from DXO, Photozone, or somewhere else?

pcmag has some imatest results that claim it's marginally sharper than the zeiss 135 apo: http://www.pcmag.com …le2/0,2817,2487​355,00.asp (external link)

http://www.lenstip.com …UMC_Image_resol​ution.html (external link)
In the frame centre the image is very sharp already from the maximum relative aperture, with MTFs reaching almost 46 lpmm. It is more than the maximum result of the Canon EF 135 mm f/2L USM, so adored and praised by many people, which by f/4.0 exceeded slightly 43 lpmm! The Samyang, on stopping down reaches a record-breaking level of 47.6 lpmm.


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Feb 20, 2016 02:05 |  #13341

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Do most of you guys think that the SY 135mm is just as good as the canon 135L? You guys think the bokeh (especially), sharpness, contrast are similar or very different
On the fence for either lens

The SY 135 F/2 easily beats the 135L. Check out this comparison review (external link). This is all meaningless of course if you need AF. I think it's also advisable to have IBIS when using a 135mm lens handheld because things can get shaky in the viewfinder.


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Feb 20, 2016 02:08 |  #13342

David Arbogast wrote in post #17905323 (external link)
I hadn't seen the comparitive reviews showing SY 135 as superior to 135L...interesting. This from DXO, Photozone, or somewhere else?

Check out this comparison review (external link).


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Feb 20, 2016 02:11 |  #13343

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #17905325 (external link)
My choice would be similar; I prefer 24 or 28mm, 50mm and 100 to 135mm primes. My a7S go to kit consists of my FE 28mm, C/Y Zeiss (or Yashica ML) 50mm and my Rokinon 85mm (because I don't yet own a 100-135mm prime that equals it's quality) :)

Time for the Samyang 135mm F/2 then. :-P


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Feb 20, 2016 04:05 |  #13344

Do EFCS compromise image quality?


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Feb 20, 2016 04:42 |  #13345

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Do EFCS compromise image quality?

No. Fully electronic shutter causes 12 bit mode though if that bothers you. First curtain doesnt


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Feb 20, 2016 04:43 |  #13346

135L vs SY135 is easy for me. I'm not a MF guy


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Feb 20, 2016 04:49 |  #13347

xpfloyd wrote in post #17905417 (external link)
No. Fully electronic shutter causes 12 but mode though if that bothers you. First curtain doesnt

thank you.


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Feb 20, 2016 05:05 |  #13348

vinmunoz wrote in post #17905393 (external link)
Do EFCS compromise image quality?

Only if you wanted to trigger a flash.

I have searched to see if I can tell the difference and no I can't see it. I can see closed eyes, bad light, bad body angles, bad backgrounds, etc - but seeing this loss in quality is impossible.

You can't however use it at very fast shutter speeds as there then is a physical effect that is visible. It is easily good to 1/1000. Faster than 1/2000 is not advised in my experience - Sony says 1/1000 is about max but you can go quicker.


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Feb 20, 2016 05:10 |  #13349

I've had EFCS on since I received the camera and also shoot in AF-C 12 bit mode most of the time and never seen an issue at any shutter speed. Only time I've seen something is when using fully electronic shutter and got a rolling shutter effect


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Feb 20, 2016 05:45 |  #13350

xpfloyd wrote in post #17905432 (external link)
I've had EFCS on since I received the camera and also shoot in AF-C 12 bit mode most of the time and never seen an issue at any shutter speed. Only time I've seen something is when using fully electronic shutter and got a rolling shutter effect


stupid me - sorry - cant read - my comments were about silent shutter not EFCS


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