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Feb 25, 2016 03:55 |  #721

Erik S. Klein wrote in post #17911812 (external link)
The cFast, IMO, is more about video. 4K @ 60 will need the speed.

I was going to question that, but I'd forgotten it's using MJPEG for 4K (not H.264 or 265). 1DC 4K MJPEG rates seem to be around 50-70MB/s (for 24/25fps), so I guess that at 60fps on a 1Dx II you really are going to be pushing your luck with a CF card.

If the 1Dx II 60fps data rate does end up being twice that of the 1Dc (possible, as there's no inter-frame compression with MJPEG), you'll get through 1GB of storage in 7-10 seconds!


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Feb 25, 2016 04:03 |  #722

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Canon themselves claim they went with the dual card type solution to not obsolete the large number of CF cards some of the current 1DX users have. Now they can still be used in one slot.
Perhaps Nikon's solution of offering the camera with either two cards of this type or two cards of that type is better.

I agree on that


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Feb 25, 2016 09:10 |  #723

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #17911921 (external link)
Erik I'm planning a different scheme. RAW to CFast until it fills then auto-switch RAW to CF.
I don't like throttles even if I'll never reach the upper reaches of the 170 envelope.

I'm considering it - but RAW and .jpg.

I'll have to see how the buffer keeps up with my shooting style.

I really like having in-camera backups and .jpgs to work with pre-post.

I don't want a one-card camera and, like everyone else, I think that Canon screwed up by skipping dual cFast, at least as an option.

Oh well.


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Feb 25, 2016 10:50 |  #724

apersson850 wrote in post #17912119 (external link)
Canon themselves claim they went with the dual card type solution to not obsolete the large number of CF cards some of the current 1DX users have. Now they can still be used in one slot.
Perhaps Nikon's solution of offering the camera with either two cards of this type or two cards of that type is better.


And it may come to pass, if the demand from Canon's higher end professionals is there. My guess is that for the majority of photographers, Canon's compromise is likely the best. I for one would want it exactly as it is outfitted, as writing to cards simultaneously is not my "norm" but that's just me. But being able to use C-fast or CF cards is certainly the most flexible solution.


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Feb 25, 2016 11:37 |  #725

I think Canon got this right as well. I know everyone has a ton of CF cards and has stepped up and purchased the better ones. From what I have read, they went C-fast so they could get to 14 and not fill up the buffer. I also believe I read that they could shoot to both cards at same time. need to re-look at my notes.

I for one need a camera that records to both slots at same time. Strictly for Back up purposes. Card failure does occur. I want it on another card, exact.....just in case. Probably one of the most important things for wedding photographers along with ISO performance. I think about the only time I will need or want FPS is for wildlife shooting.


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Feb 25, 2016 12:27 |  #726

And Canon made the buffer so ridiculously large that for those that use both card slots, I would be very skeptical you would ever hit a limit where the CF card will hamper your burst activity. CF cards can write at very, very fast speeds now. I think the is much ado about nothing here, unlike the 5D3 which still upsets me a bit. The SD card is a very large handicap in that camera, but the same situation doesn't exist on the 7D2, and the 1DX2 is even better.


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Feb 25, 2016 22:13 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #727

TS I think ultimately you are spot on for real world usage.
And for real world usage I'll probably never shoot more than a test minute of video with it.


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Feb 26, 2016 01:36 |  #728

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17912512 (external link)
And it may come to pass, if the demand from Canon's higher end professionals is there. My guess is that for the majority of photographers, Canon's compromise is likely the best. I for one would want it exactly as it is outfitted, as writing to cards simultaneously is not my "norm" but that's just me. But being able to use C-fast or CF cards is certainly the most flexible solution.

yes but it kind of removes the pro argument of having a camera having 2 card slots as some may just use one due to the cf slot crippling buffer and fps speeds when used along with the cfast :(


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Feb 26, 2016 01:37 |  #729

umphotography wrote in post #17912561 (external link)
I think Canon got this right as well. I know everyone has a ton of CF cards and has stepped up and purchased the better ones. From what I have read, they went C-fast so they could get to 14 and not fill up the buffer. I also believe I read that they could shoot to both cards at same time. need to re-look at my notes.

I for one need a camera that records to both slots at same time. Strictly for Back up purposes. Card failure does occur. I want it on another card, exact.....just in case. Probably one of the most important things for wedding photographers along with ISO performance. I think about the only time I will need or want FPS is for wildlife shooting.

i would wait for the 5d4 as i think the 1dxmk2 is a bit too large for wedding toggers?


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Feb 26, 2016 01:44 as a reply to  @ jonneymendoza's post |  #730

I thought the X2 is a bit thinner than the X1 and that the X1 was frequently used by wedding photographers ??


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Feb 26, 2016 02:29 |  #731

I use my 1DX for weddings, and that's my primary photo business. I just like the full body camera bodies. I also shoot one specific sport that requires speed so I'll be bumping to the 1DX2 as my primary to get the deeper buffer. But I for one wish that it had 2 CFast slots.


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Feb 26, 2016 02:54 |  #732

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #17913472 (external link)
I thought the X2 is a bit thinner than the X1 and that the X1 was frequently used by wedding photographers ??

I am sure the 1DX is used by wedding photographers, but personally I've seen many more wedding photographers use 5D3s rather than 1DXs. They don't really need the frame rate (except maybe for the bouquet toss) or the build quality and would welcome the higher resolution and the cost (two 5D3s for the price of one 1DX).




  
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Feb 26, 2016 02:58 as a reply to  @ frankchn's post |  #733

No worries about weddings for me. All I plan to shoot are the birds in the back yard-sitting on the limb.


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Feb 26, 2016 08:48 |  #734

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #17913503 (external link)
No worries about weddings for me. All I plan to shoot are the birds in the back yard-sitting on the limb.

$6000 bucks for that? You must love your back yard! :-)


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Feb 26, 2016 09:20 as a reply to  @ mwsilver's post |  #735

I look at it like "either I can give it to my kids when I am gone" or "I can enjoy it now while I am able to shoot".... ;)


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