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Mar 02, 2016 11:13 |  #1

I have pre-booked the new Canon D80 ( to be released later this month). I am new to canon and I have looked at lenses till my brain is in a fog. When I ordered my camera I also ordered the 18-135 lens. I now need to decide what other lenses I need in my bag. I shoot mainly nature shots, wildlife, wildflowers, landscapes, etc. I definitely want a good birding lens. I have talked to a couple of friends that shoot Canon and they both recommend I get the 70-200mm F2.8 IS II series and a convertor versus getting the 100-400mm lens. Your thoughts on this folks? Thanks in advance!




  
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Mar 02, 2016 11:16 |  #2

You absolutely do NOT want the 70-200 & converter, unless you are making money on the 70-200, and cannot in any way afford the 100-400.

Get the 100-400ii for birds/wildlife/semi-macro.

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Mar 02, 2016 11:25 |  #3

And for another vote... I was in the same position several years ago. I opted for the 70-200 f/2.8 and a 1.4x converter. I have no complaints. The 70-200 can be used for other settings and is one of the go-to lenses for events and weddings. My judgment was that the 100-400 would have only one use and therefore was not an expense that I could justify. If all you want is a birding lens, then the 100-400 is fine.


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Mar 02, 2016 12:26 as a reply to  @ skid00skid00's post |  #4

Thank you for your input!




  
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Mar 02, 2016 12:28 as a reply to  @ joedlh's post |  #5

Thank you for your input!




  
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Mar 02, 2016 14:43 |  #6

I have a couple of different recommendation that you might want to consider. First, if birding is the main reason you want a telephoto lens, I would at consider the Canon 400 5.6. It will save you a grand over the 100-400 II, and I almost never want less than 400mm for birds (or any wildlife, for that matter).

If you really want a zoom lens, don't limit yourself to just Canon. I have the Sigma 150-600 Sport and it offers exceptional image quality all the way out to 600mm. The Contemporary version can be had for just under a $1000 (which would again save you a grand from the Canon 100-400 II) and I have seen some incredible results from it. It can serve as your "almost macro lens" too (or you could buy a dedicated macro with the savings!) EDIT: I've also seen great results from the Tamron 150-600, which I believe is about the same price as the Sigma C.

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Mar 03, 2016 15:48 as a reply to  @ Jeff Hanson's post |  #7

Thank you so much for your input. I am making lots of comparisons and appreciate all the input from the members here! Since I am new to Canon, I am learning a lot or becoming more confused...not sure which. LOL




  
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Mar 03, 2016 16:20 as a reply to  @ Kygirl58's post |  #8

I'm a little late to reply just found this post.
I shoot mostly wildlife and have a 70-200 but never use it because 100-400 is much better.

Most of the time I use a 1.4 TC on it for 140-560mm makes it perfect for most shots.
If I need more like for eagles I use a 600f4 with 1.4 TC on it.

If you like some detail in your photos go for the longer lens.




  
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Mar 03, 2016 19:15 as a reply to  @ Black Bart's post |  #9

Thank you for your input. You're not too late, I haven't bought anything yet. The pre-order on my camera says end of March so I have a little play time to pick out my big lens.




  
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Mar 03, 2016 19:58 |  #10

for wildlife/birds it'd be hard not to go for one of the 150-600mm offerings...what's your budget that you'd like to spend?

also gotta make sure you get those D's in the right spot...don't want someone thinking you're shooting with a nikon :)


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Mar 04, 2016 02:59 |  #11

Welcome to the Canon world :)

If your not shooting alot of birds I'd almost suggest a Canon 6d full frame. The image quality would be a step above the Canon crop sensors. Also the 6d is excellent at high iso low light shooting. If you pair that with a 16-35mm f/4IS (good light lens) your jaw will drop!! If you just want faster glass buy the 16-35 f/2.8 mk2 UWA (ultra wide) lens.

If your really into birding the 80D will probably do a pretty good job. No one really knows the low light performance of that camera body. It'll be a nice video camera too though.

For birding you'll never have enough reach. I'd suggest the 100-400L mk2 if you wan to stick with Canon native lenses. However if your wanting versatility in having a killer portrait lens I'd suggest the 70-200f/2.8IS mk2 and the newest Canon TC for extra reach for birding. It's a slight compromise but I bet the image quality will be on par to marginally better than a 100-400mk2. I did love the versatility of my previous 100-400mk1 but the image quality just wasn't upto my IQ standards. I cant gauge how serious your into birding. Many folks would like a 100-400mk2 or consider a Tamron SP 150-600mm for price point.

Test drive a 24-70L f/2.8 mk2 and feel like your using a prime lens with "zoom" capabilities :) If you look at Canon's new zoom lineup the IQ of the 16-35 f/4IS, 24-70L f/2.8mk2 and 70-200 f/2.8IS mk2 have similar colour rendition and sharp micro contrast.


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Mar 04, 2016 10:25 as a reply to  @ DreDaze's post |  #12

Thanks for your input. I'd like to keep my total on a big lens around 2000.00. I'm going in circles trying to decide. LOL Every time I think I have my mind made up, I change it. Every one in here has some good and valid points, plus I have talked to many of my friends that are Canon shooters. I'm not the best at carrying around a tripod like I should unless I am setting up to shoot eagles. Oh my...decisions...decis​ions!




  
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Mar 04, 2016 10:27 as a reply to  @ AlanU's post |  #13

Thanks for your input. You have given me a lot to think about! I do more bird, butterfly and wildflower shooting than anything else. Not much of a portrait photographer, only for close friends and family. I may end up renting some lenses and test a few before I buy anything. That's a lot of money to spend and not get what I want in the end.




  
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Mar 05, 2016 12:23 as a reply to  @ Kygirl58's post |  #14

You did not say how much you want to spend but if you are looking to get the most bang for the buck yet not sacrifice quality I would go with the 100-400 V1 they are going at around $800.00 now that the version ll is out and people who must have the latest and greatest are selling them to get the new model.
You can get a 1.4 mkll L series TC for less than $200.00 so for about 1K you can have a very high quality 140-560 mm lens.
Anything shorter is not enough for birding. You need from 400 to 1,200mm for things like hawks or eagles you will not get close unless you go where they are in a caged area.




  
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Mar 06, 2016 00:51 |  #15

Kygirl,

I'd strongly suggest borrowing your friends lenses!! or at least rent. The 100-400L mk1 was a push and pull lens so you can zoom in and out extremely quick. IQ on my 5dmk2 or 5dmk3 full frame just didn't thrill me. The IQ was "OK" and was not anything like newer Canon mk2 lenses. I had to pay more extra attention to post processing to make the IQ better.


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