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Mar 04, 2016 20:18 |  #946

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Thing is though, when the original 1Dx came out the message from Canon ambassadors was OMGSUPERAMAZINGNEVERMI​SSESMUCHBETTERTHANTHEO​LDCAMERA. Happens every time. When the 1Dx3 appears it'll be the same.

So... I don't quite buy the whole hype. Will it be better than its predecessor; sure. Will the next model be better still, sure.


Um, yea. Of course it's that way. When something new comes out it's new and improved. And of course it will be the best thing out there until the next model comes out later on down the road.

Sorry, but I don't really understand the point you were trying to make.


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Mar 04, 2016 21:08 |  #947

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OMG, there it is, now I want one!
AF and work-ability look fantastic.

You can have one as long as you get it dirty :)


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Mar 05, 2016 01:50 |  #948

In other related news, the Samsung Galaxy S7 has a new Sony IMX260 "Dual Pixel" image sensor. More interestingly, the phone with the new sensor launched at basically the same time as the 1DX2, which apparently also features a brand new sensor where Canon has caught up in low-ISO dynamic range with Sony sensors.

I wonder if Canon entered into some agreement with Sony Imaging where they agreed to share Canon's dual pixel AF patents and Sony's on-chip ADC patents starting in 2016.




  
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Mar 05, 2016 05:19 |  #949

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My personal goal is to get the best quality still images of wildlife possible, which is why I buy idiotically expensive lenses and silly cameras. Yes I know it's stupid but it's what I enjoy:lol:

I suspect that getting the best quality still images of wildlife pretty much requires expensive lenses and cameras, so it's anything but daft. Unless that is, you happen to be the world's greatest ninja, and can creep up behind an ultra-rare animal in broad daylight without it noticing ;-)a

On that subject, I did once read a great anecdote from a photographer who was shooting wading birds; he'd crawled some obscene distance over mud to get himself closer to a flock, and now found himself right in the middle of a huge number of birds. Because he was on his stomach (and very slow) they hadn't identified him as a threat, and he was now stuck, because some of them were going to sleep around him.

Now me, I'd have had an overwhelming desire to jump up and shout "SURPRISE". But I'm a douche like that sometimes :mrgreen:

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Um, yea. Of course it's that way. When something new comes out it's new and improved. And of course it will be the best thing out there until the next model comes out later on down the road.

Sorry, but I don't really understand the point you were trying to make.

My point was to inject perspective, and call for people to not get carried away with the hype until independents have reviewed the camera. The post I quoted gave the context, surely?


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Mar 05, 2016 05:27 |  #950

frankchn wrote in post #17924131 (external link)
In other related news, the Samsung Galaxy S7 has a new Sony IMX260 "Dual Pixel" image sensor. More interestingly, the phone with the new sensor launched at basically the same time as the 1DX2, which apparently also features a brand new sensor where Canon has caught up in low-ISO dynamic range with Sony sensors.

I wonder if Canon entered into some agreement with Sony Imaging where they agreed to share Canon's dual pixel AF patents and Sony's on-chip ADC patents starting in 2016.

No idea, but that's an interesting observation. I'd read about the "dual pixel" on the S7 but hadn't made that connection. I see that raw support is claimed too, so perhaps my old S5 needs upgrading!


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Mar 05, 2016 11:33 |  #951

frankchn wrote in post #17924131 (external link)
I wonder if Canon entered into some agreement with Sony Imaging where they agreed to share Canon's dual pixel AF patents and Sony's on-chip ADC patents starting in 2016.

When I see stuff like that I wonder if they have equally capable industrial espionage divisions...

Call me a cynic. :)


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Mar 05, 2016 12:08 |  #952

frankchn wrote in post #17924131 (external link)
In other related news, the Samsung Galaxy S7 has a new Sony IMX260 "Dual Pixel" image sensor. More interestingly, the phone with the new sensor launched at basically the same time as the 1DX2, which apparently also features a brand new sensor where Canon has caught up in low-ISO dynamic range with Sony sensors.

I wonder if Canon entered into some agreement with Sony Imaging where they agreed to share Canon's dual pixel AF patents and Sony's on-chip ADC patents starting in 2016.


My S7 has the same sensor as 1Dx2! So there! :) lol.


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Mar 05, 2016 13:41 |  #953

Erik S. Klein wrote in post #17924473 (external link)
When I see stuff like that I wonder if they have equally capable industrial espionage divisions...

Call me a cynic. :)

Haha, that thought has crossed my mind as well. However if it is a patent circumvention or industrial espionage, Samsung would not have come right out and mentioned "Dual Pixel technology, which is utilized in selective, high-end DSLR camera models, as well as those of the Galaxy S7" in its official press release (external link) or used the term "Dual Pixel" in the first place, which might be a Canon trademark.

I am not sure if any potential patent exchange is with Sony or Samsung (or both!) though.




  
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Mar 05, 2016 15:45 |  #954

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Well and I will be honest, I have always been fascinated by wildlife photography, just never really did it.

But will try to start it slowly.
Oh and the fact that expensive cameras and big white lenses are needed for that purpose make wildlife photography even more fun :-D

You are right to start slowly and then I would advise that you give it up quickly! You might end up like me!:-)
When reach and IQ are the goals then things rapidly get both expensive and heavy! Also huge amounts of patience are needed! If you look at my avatar then you can see the amount of junk that I carry about!
It is addictive though...............


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Mar 05, 2016 23:09 |  #955

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You are right to start slowly and then I would advise that you give it up quickly! You might end up like me!:-)
When reach and IQ are the goals then things rapidly get both expensive and heavy! Also huge amounts of patience are needed! If you look at my avatar then you can see the amount of junk that I carry about!
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Oh I believe you, and oh I am really looking forward to emptying my wallet otherwise it is gonna burn a hole in my pocket  :p


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Mar 06, 2016 06:23 |  #956

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here is the image. From a FB page so keep in mind the quality usually goes to crap through FB

this is Jeff ascough's photo with the 1Dx2 testers model at 25000 iso
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Mar 06, 2016 07:44 |  #957

umphotography wrote in post #17923662 (external link)
Yup

who would have thought they would get the AF this good. Everyone i talk to says it wont miss. Especially in low light. 25000 is just a bonus. DR is there and you can shoot for Highlights and push darks/shadows. Game changer

i hope the new 5dx is just a 1dxmk2 without a grip


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Mar 06, 2016 07:46 |  #958

sploo wrote in post #17923673 (external link)
Thing is though, when the original 1Dx came out the message from Canon ambassadors was OMGSUPERAMAZINGNEVERMI​SSESMUCHBETTERTHANTHEO​LDCAMERA. Happens every time. When the 1Dx3 appears it'll be the same.

So... I don't quite buy the whole hype. Will it be better than its predecessor; sure. Will the next model be better still, sure.

i would not drop 6k on this camera based on hype. you need to rent it or give it a go yourself somehow and read real world reviews by early adpoters to make a decison


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Mar 06, 2016 09:57 |  #959

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noisy!

Thats jeffs look. I can say most of it was added. He is a B&W shooter and is know for these looks This was a processed file.


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Mar 06, 2016 10:39 |  #960

Bob Davis got his hands on a pre production 1Dx2. Take a look. Finally. here are some full size files

https://davisworkshops​.smugmug.com/Canon-EOS-1DXMarkII/ (external link)

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