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Is IS overrated and worth the extra cost ?

 
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Mar 29, 2016 09:34 as a reply to  @ post 17953072 |  #76

It is simply another tool in the photographer's bag. Use it when you need it. But without it, it isn't a deal breaker.
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Mar 29, 2016 09:49 |  #77

IS is fricken huge. End of conversation.

Unless you want to drag a tripod every place you go or you have a camera that will shoot clean at Higher ISO's so you can bump shutter speed

Yes you can work around a lens not having IS......But as mentioned in this thread many times...Why ?

100-400's, 300L's, 70-200's with IS all perform better for most of us who hand hold than a non IOS lens--Thats just Fact

Can I work around it if i had to....sure....But why would I....=besides, theres only a few choices in canons line up where you really have the option.........so all of this is a lame argument


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Mar 30, 2016 06:12 |  #78

Interesting thread, I will turn off IS more often to see if it makes a difference with my shooting habits.


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Mar 30, 2016 09:05 |  #79

Moncho wrote in post #17954396 (external link)
Interesting thread, I will turn off IS more often to see if it makes a difference with my shooting habits.

It would be a good experiment for your shooting style.

All I can say though is I've been using IS for the past 10 years. Doing wedding and social event work it's given me many more keepers than I would have had without it. If there has been any image degradation with it - and I don't understand why there would be - I can't see it. I don't pixel peep but I do make prints for exhibition and competition. They look just fine.


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Mar 30, 2016 09:23 as a reply to  @ post 17934340 |  #80

Good point and for those who doubt, try shooting the moon with IS on and then with IS off when using a tripod.


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Mar 30, 2016 09:29 |  #81

frayne wrote in post #17954562 (external link)
Good point and for those who doubt, try shooting the moon with IS on and then with IS off when using a tripod.

I certainly agree :lol:

It was certainly a premium charge when I purchased my 70 - 200 f/2.8 IS (a number of hundreds of dollars more) but I just mentally prorated that over the years of use that it would enable me to produce superior work. I keep my lenses for over a decade - at least. For me the value of the "keeper" shot goes beyond the upfront greater cost of the lens.

Now understand and appreciate that cost is an issue for some. That's why they have non-IS lenses. So for those situations you just bump ISO if possible, or use a tripod if practical; a tool for every situation.


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Apr 03, 2016 09:13 |  #82

bumpintheroad wrote in post #17934299 (external link)
You tell me. 100-400L @ 400 on a crop body, 1/40th, handheld. Not a fluke - I took 6 different photos of this subject and four of them were equally sharp.

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But if you're shooting sports/action with shutter speeds of 1/500 and above, IS isn't going to help you at all. Also, IS doesn't solve the problem of subject movement, just camera movement.

"Not a fluke!" saw what you did there.
Looks more like an HP scope.


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Apr 03, 2016 16:17 |  #83

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"Not a fluke!" saw what you did there.
Looks more like an HP scope.

Looks more like a Tektronic to me :). But it is 24 years or so since I was using both Tektronic and HP scopes. Since it was in the RAF I think half the test equipment was nearly as old as I was. The radar I spent most of my time working on was commissiond the year I was born, after two years of building construction and installation.

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Apr 03, 2016 20:34 |  #84

Alan is right -- it's Tektronic.


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Apr 11, 2016 22:17 |  #85

Heya,

I was 100% reliant on stabilization today. VC on, and a monopod used (this doesn't actually help stabilize that much when you're at 600mm, but it does take the weight off when bracing for long periods which does help). A monopod alone wouldn't have let me get that slow with the shutter. Stabilization is just super helpful and it's real world usefulness really shines at longer focal lengths (because while you can manage 2+ second exposures handheld with a wide lens, there's very little real world use to that).

1/60s, and I was panning left with the bird (see the twig top left for blur example)

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Apr 11, 2016 22:55 |  #86

I don't know, Martin. I don't think you're getting your money's worth out of IS.  :p

Lovely shots, btw.


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Apr 11, 2016 22:56 |  #87

^^^^
Nice sharp shots for 600mm at 1/50th. That's where IS shines.


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Apr 12, 2016 19:00 |  #88

Interesting discussion. I'm usually aware of my shutter speed with my different lenses. I love IS on my 35mm. But, on my 100 F2.8 Tokina macro, I'm grateful for the lower cost and lighter build. Almost all my macro shots have a flash component, or such a narrow DOF that a tripod is critical (esp. with stacked images).

About six months ago I did an emergency wedding shoot, and borrowed a 70-200 F4 w/o IS. By carefully timing the shot, on a tripod, I was able to capture some terrific shots.

So sharing my experience, it depends on the purpose. My 28-75 is w/o IS, and I'm tempted to negotiate with the house boss for an upgrade.


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Apr 15, 2016 19:18 as a reply to  @ post 17952663 |  #89

Although I did say in my previous post that I "would leave it there" I think that it is appropriate that I say that Jon's statement about the number of elements in the Canon IS systems is quite correct and that I was wrong in my assertion that it is a simple piece of glass that cannot help but degrade IQ. Unfortunately I had relied on lens diagrams published by Canon UK - sorry my mistake! After a very quick Google search I can see exactly what Jon was getting at and he is right and I got that one wrong as there are several elements involved - we all live and learn!

As an aside I was getting bored this afternoon as the birds were not coming out to play and the light was rubbish so, just for fun, I put my 1.4 extender on my 100-400 Mk2 (the only lens that I have ever used where IS can be useful), I call it Mr Wobbly, and tried some lowish shutter speeds. To be fair I was able to support my left elbow, which obviously helped, and can normally hand hold to 1/250 (maybe 1/160) sec at 500/600mm, so I dropped the shutter speed to 1/50 sec to se what happened.


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Apr 15, 2016 19:27 as a reply to  @ johnf3f's post |  #90

So here are 4 consecutive frames (2 in the previous post), rubbish images I know, but which two have the IS on and which two the IS off? The Exif data should be intact so you can see how the light was, if not let me know.
Remember these were shot with a lens that I find extremely difficult to hold steady, so difficult in fact that I am having to eat my words and actually use IS! No use for IS at 800mm but with the 100-400 Mk2 I am using IS mode 3 most of the time?!?
Don't get me wrong it's a lovely lens but the balance is horrible!


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