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Apr 08, 2016 17:06 as a reply to  @ post 17965134 |  #16

I appreciate all the opinions.

Take for example this image I shot a week ago. I feel like the 5D3, and newer cameras in general, would yield a much more richer sky than my 5D Classic.

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Apr 08, 2016 20:03 |  #17
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Just curious, if dynamic range is your goal, why on earth are you even talking about Canon bodies ... they're pretty much at the bottom of the barrel, sensor-wise :rolleyes:

Check out SenScore (external link) > Scores > Full Frame Cameras and you will see the Canon 5D III rates 729 in DR compared to the Canon 5D II (which rates a paltry 524) :oops:

By Contrast, the Nikon D810 rates 1028 and the Sony A7R II rates 1071.

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PS: If you check Scores > APS-C Cameras, you will see the same embarrassment: the 7D Mark II rates 545 and the Canon 70D rates 442 ... whereas the Nikon D7200 rates 973 and the D550 rates 809, literally with nearly twice the dynamic range of the Canon equivalents. When Nikon's D500 comes out, it will literally blow the 7D II out of the water, on every conceivable level.




  
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Apr 08, 2016 20:21 |  #18

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Just curious, if dynamic range is your goal, why on earth are you even talking about Canon bodies ... they're pretty much at the bottom of the barrel, sensor-wise :rolleyes:

Check out SenScore (external link) > Scores > Full Frame Cameras and you will see the Canon 5D III rates 729 in DR compared to the Canon 5D II (which rates a paltry 524) :oops:

By Contrast, the Nikon D810 rates 1028 and the Sony A7R II rates 1071.

Jack

PS: If you check Scores > APS-C Cameras, you will see the same embarrassment: the 7D Mark II rates 545 and the Canon 70D rates 442 ... whereas the Nikon D7200 rates 973 and the D550 rates 809, literally with nearly twice the dynamic range of the Canon equivalents. When Nikon's D500 comes out, it will literally blow the 7D II out of the water, on every conceivable level.

I know. You're completely correct on that, but as of right now, I don't want to take on the expense of converting. I may rethink that.


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Apr 08, 2016 20:47 |  #19

01Ryan10 wrote in post #17965137 (external link)
I appreciate all the opinions.

Take for example this image I shot a week ago. I feel like the 5D3, and newer cameras in general, would yield a much more richer sky than my 5D Classic.

85mm f/1.8 @ 8.0
ISO 200 if i remember correctly
1/160, I think


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For more saturated colors in the sky, you can just decrease exposure by a stop. The dynamic range is not a factor in this image.

Great shot, BTW!




  
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Apr 08, 2016 20:54 |  #20

Seriously, buy a 6D.


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Apr 08, 2016 21:14 |  #21

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For more saturated colors in the sky, you can just decrease exposure by a stop. The dynamic range is not a factor in this image.

Great shot, BTW!


Hard to do when I'm on the fringe of my 1/200th sync speed already. I can't remember if I was at iso 100 or 200.


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Apr 08, 2016 21:32 |  #22
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01Ryan10 wrote in post #17965320 (external link)
I know. You're completely correct on that, but as of right now, I don't want to take on the expense of converting. I may rethink that.

I totally understand your pain.

I hung on for 6 years ... waiting ... and I finally converted everything.

The only thing I regret is not doing so, sooner.




  
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Apr 08, 2016 21:42 |  #23

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Hard to do when I'm on the fringe of my 1/200th sync speed already. I can't remember if I was at iso 100 or 200.

I meant when editing the image in post. Here's a quick edit I did:


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Apr 08, 2016 22:21 |  #24

Maybe increase the strobe power so you can decrease exposure a bit.

01Ryan10 wrote in post #17965366 (external link)
Hard to do when I'm on the fringe of my 1/200th sync speed already.

Have you ever checked it? You may be able to squeeze out a little faster shutter speed. Strobe sync @ 1/400: Pushing the limits.


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Apr 08, 2016 22:43 |  #25

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Have you ever checked it? You may be able to squeeze out a little faster shutter speed. Strobe sync @ 1/400: Pushing the limits.


I think I did 1/200th a few times in studio, and I was getting a slight bar starting to show up.


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Apr 08, 2016 22:48 |  #26

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Yup, I could do that as well.


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Apr 08, 2016 22:49 |  #27

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I did a little in post, but even working with RAW files, it started to get a bit muddy.


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Apr 08, 2016 23:19 |  #28

More dynamic range? Sounds like medium format time to me!

But in all seriousness (though really MF) if you're just hunting for more dynamic range then you might be best served just jumping ship. Sony sensors (Nikon uses Sony sensors as well I beleive) are king right now.




  
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Apr 09, 2016 03:44 |  #29

01Ryan10 wrote in post #17965320 (external link)
I know. You're completely correct on that, but as of right now, I don't want to take on the expense of converting. I may rethink that.

You've got about £1100 in lenses ($????) so its not that deep figuratively speaking. I've found Noink to be generally cheaper anyway so I would look hard at selling up and jumping ship. Different if you had much more invested in multiple bodies and super teles.




  
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Apr 09, 2016 03:59 |  #30

Not quite right in my post, your lenses are about £300 more expensive for their Nikon equivalent, but the D500 is around £600 cheaper than a 5D mk3. Swings and roundabouts then...




  
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