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Apr 10, 2016 13:05 |  #1

Boeing B17G, that mainstay of the US 8th and 9th Air Force bomber fleets, among many others using the type. A great aircraft let down by one thing, a relatively small bomb load. The B17 could initially only carry 4000Lbs of bombs all the way to Berlin, the same load as the twin engined, two man crewed DH Mosquito.

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Bücker Bü 133 Jungmeister, an advanced single seat aerobatic type that was used for training pilots for the nascent Luftwaffe in 1903's Germany.

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Blackburn, I'm going to feature two from Blackburn, first the Oldest surviving British Aircraft anywhere. Surprisingly it is still fully airworthy, and what is more is a much better flyer than the other contemporary airworthy survivors of this period, the Deperdussin and the Bleriot XI (the Shuttleworth Collection Bleriot XI is the oldest airworthy aircraft in the world). The Blackburn Type D monoplane.

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From the earliest British aircraft, we move to the last type to bear the Blackburn name, the Buccaneer B2. Designed for the same role as the wartime Fairey Swordfish, most of which were actually built by Blackburn's, this was the Royal Navy's last traditional fast attack aircraft. It went on to serve with the RAF after the Navy retired it's last Aircraft Carrier HMS Ark Royal. The Buccaneer did eventually see active service during Operation Granby (better known to our American friends as Operation Desert Storm, you do seem to have much better names for operations) as a laser designator aircraft for others PGM's

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Then there is the classic Beech D17S Staggerwing, a classic early example of what would probably fall in to the current "business jet" category. It's speed and range, and ability to carry additional fuel instead of passengers, made it a good choice for long distance speed records and races.

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The Boulton Paul Defiant Mk I, was designed to fill the same role as that filled by the famous Bristol F2b Fighter (see B is also for....) The Defiant might have had some sucess during daylight operations if it were not for it's one big failing no forwards firing guns!!! Once Luftwaffe fighter pilots realised this, and attacked from head on, the one direction from which the Defiant could offer no means of returning fire, losses mounted. The Defiant was switched to night fighter operations only, where it meet with some success as a bomber interceptor, the role it was designed for. Later in the war after the dedicated night fighter types with AI radar came into service the Defiant was converted to a target drogue tow aircraft by the removal of the rear turret. This example at the RAF Museum Hendon (in the Battle of Britain hall) is in night fighter markings.

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I guess as someone born in the 60's I had better include possibly the most famous helicopter of that, or any other decade, the Huey, or more properly known as the Bell UH-1 Iroquois. I guess there is not much I can add to the story of the Huey, so here it is.

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I suppose I had better finish up with the Bleriot XIa. It was in one of his model XI's that Bleriot became the fist man to fly the English Channel in a heavier than air aircraft. I'm not keen on this picture from the RAF Museum Hendon, Milestones of Flight hall. The problem is that I don't have a picture of the airworthy Bleriot XI of the Shuttleworth Collection. But it's a pertty important type so I better include it.

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Apr 10, 2016 15:03 |  #2

I didn't know the Mosquito could carry that much! Keep it up, Alan!


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Apr 10, 2016 16:52 |  #3

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I didn't know the Mosquito could carry that much! Keep it up, Alan!

Not only could it carry the same bomb load to Berlin as the B17, it was the fastest aircraft in service with any air force in the world when it entered service with the RAF. Of course the B17's main problem was it's birth as a maritime patrol bomber. As such it needed a huge range, but very little bomb load. So the designed the bomb bay to be very small. Of course in the 1930's they didn't really have much in the way of big bombs so having a big bomb bay was not a priority. The successful British heavies, especially the Lancaster, were designed quite a bit later with huge bomb bays designed to manage the much larger bombs and bomb loads that were developed during the war. Not only could the DH98 carry 4000 Lbs of bombs, it was specifically designed to carry the 4000 lb blockbuster all the way to Berlin. I don't think you could get anything near a single 4000 lb bomb in the B17, even in the later marks. Saying that in an area saturation bombing situation, which is what the US 8th Air Force was taking part in, even if they didn't want to admit it, the B17 could carry a much better combination of HE and incendiary devices for causing maximum damage over a wide area than the DH98.

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Apr 10, 2016 18:18 |  #4

it was specifically designed to carry the 4000 lb blockbuster all the way to Berlin

Didn't know that, either. Too bad one didn't find the little guy with the toothbrush mustache! ; D


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