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Apr 11, 2016 20:00 |  #1441

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George Lepp has a pre production copy and has posted quite a number of shots on FB as well as some video. Many of these are with his 800mm plus a T/C. He says that he is so impressed, he has put money down to buy one. I will let you be the judge on these images as I know images from FB have gone through significant size reduction, etc.

https://www.facebook.c​om/george.lepp.9?fref (external link)


EDIT: I just went to his web site and these shots may be more informational.

http://www.georgeleppi​mages.com/new-page-2 (external link)

Pretty nice screen grab from a 4k video on FB

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Awesome -- thanks for posting this! I had not seen this yet. George Lepp is highlighting what I was already very excited about -- the ability to use the increased ISO capabilities to increase your depth of field, which is something I've struggled with for awhile now.

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Apr 11, 2016 23:15 as a reply to  @ bps's post |  #1442

Bryan, kudos for all the researching you are doing. I think I will buy you beer if I make it to Rhode Island :)

Edit-visited his page. Beautiful work. Noticed he uses the StackShot=great machine.
But I was looking for high ISO shots and in my dark dank always cloudy world ISO 3200 is not high.

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Apr 12, 2016 06:18 as a reply to  @ MedicineMan4040's post |  #1443

Those images are nice, but.... made in good light at 3200ISO. I'm not impressed.
Any half decent camera can do that.
I would like to see some low light shots (like theatre or low light gym) at 8000-12000ISO.


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Apr 12, 2016 06:33 as a reply to  @ post 17966203 |  #1444

I assume the comparisons are being made from JPG. When comparing older cameras like the 1D4, those had the old JPG engine. The newer engine is much better at IQ retention and noise reduction. Just be careful with any comparisons being made to the 1D4, 5D2, 7D, etc. The 6D, 7D2, 5D3, and 1DX all sport the newer engine.


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Apr 12, 2016 07:20 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #1445

I'd consider the 6D a bit old tech, or at least I'd hope the 1DXii is way beyond it by now........or is the 6D that good?
I've never sold mine.


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Apr 12, 2016 07:40 |  #1446

George Lepp was mostly comparing to 7D MkII. I'm not surprised the new camera beat that in many ways. I would like to see higher ISO shots also, but I will say that
a) with George, you have a Pro that looks at large images and cover quality images every day and he is saying this is better.
b) he is noting he is shooting more dof while maintaining shutter speed. for me in my Africa work, this is not a small challenge.

Yes, I would love to see some ISO 6400, f/11, 1/1600 sec. shots in flat light, but I will take any insight I can get at this moment.


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Apr 12, 2016 11:31 |  #1447

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George Lepp was mostly comparing to 7D MkII. I'm not surprised the new camera beat that in many ways. I would like to see higher ISO shots also, but I will say that
a) with George, you have a Pro that looks at large images and cover quality images every day and he is saying this is better.
b) he is noting he is shooting more dof while maintaining shutter speed. for me in my Africa work, this is not a small challenge.

Yes, I would love to see some ISO 6400, f/11, 1/1600 sec. shots in flat light, but I will take any insight I can get at this moment.

I'm with Buddy. Right now, I'll take any info I can get. George Lepp's observations are very pertinent to me. I'm moving from a Canon 5D Mark III / Canon 7D Mark II to a Canon 5DsR / Canon 1D X Mark II. I was thankful to read his real-world experiences.

Here's my take on things. Right now, all of the pixel-peepers are frustrated because they are not getting enough laboratory-type experiments on the sensor. To this crowd, I offer this: most working professional photographers are actually into creating images and not spending all day setting up, running, and analyzing laboratory-style experiments on various sensors. They are photographers, not pixel-peeping analysts. I don't mean any disrespect to those who enjoy the science behind the microns, but Canon is beta-testing their new camera and the best way to get feedback or identify issues is to put the camera into the hands of people that do nothing but practice the art of photography. The time for feedback on sensor design and sensor performance happened a long time ago.

That's what cracks me up. Some people are always bothered by the fact that they are not receiving any in-depth pixel-peeping info during the last couple of months prior to a new release, but Canon is doing exactly what they should be doing. They are making sure the camera is functioning correctly and as an added bonus, they are generating some excitement along the way. When the camera is available to the general public, then and only then, will the pixel peepers get their opportunity to do what makes them the most happy. As for me, I will be out in the field creating images, and I can hardly wait!

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Apr 12, 2016 11:48 |  #1448

For today's viewing pleasure, here's a video that was released today demonstrating the side-by-side comparison of the shutter speed and sound of the Canon 1D X Mark II and the Nikon D5. The video demonstrates the shutter speed, both in real-time and slo-mo, and they also use a smartphone to measure the decimal noise. It's mildly interesting! I was surprised to hear how slow the D5 sounds next to the 1D X MII!

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Apr 12, 2016 16:07 |  #1449

buddy4344 wrote in post #17969200 (external link)
George Lepp was mostly comparing to 7D MkII. I'm not surprised the new camera beat that in many ways. I would like to see higher ISO shots also, but I will say that
a) with George, you have a Pro that looks at large images and cover quality images every day and he is saying this is better.
b) he is noting he is shooting more dof while maintaining shutter speed. for me in my Africa work, this is not a small challenge.

Yes, I would love to see some ISO 6400, f/11, 1/1600 sec. shots in flat light, but I will take any insight I can get at this moment.

There is also the rather major factor that the sensor on the 1D is more than twice the surface area as that in the 7D.

Assuming he's got suitable glass (such that he's not focal length limited on the 1D) then it really shouldn't be a contest at high ISOs. Heck, I understand the 7DII is exceptionally good, but it won't match the high ISO DR of even the 5D mark 2: http://www.photonstoph​otos.net …on%20EOS%207D%2​0Mark%20II (external link)

My point being is that it's not really such a fair/valid comparison to say "this FF camera is better at high ISO than this APS-C camera". Perhaps a more valid statement would be "given the glass I own and the conditions in which I shoot, the compromises I have to make on this FF camera result in better images than the compromises I make on this APS-C camera".

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Here's my take on things. Right now, all of the pixel-peepers are frustrated because they are not getting enough laboratory-type experiments on the sensor. To this crowd, I offer this: most working professional photographers are actually into creating images and not spending all day setting up, running, and analyzing laboratory-style experiments on various sensors. They are photographers, not pixel-peeping analysts. I don't mean any disrespect to those who enjoy the science behind the microns, but Canon is beta-testing their new camera and the best way to get feedback or identify issues is to put the camera into the hands of people that do nothing but practice the art of photography. The time for feedback on sensor design and sensor performance happened a long time ago.

This is true, but... what you tend to see from these shooters that have been given beta versions of new cameras is often a lot of hyperbole. They're usually based on JPEG images (so improvements may be more to do with the JPEG processing than the actual sensor quality), and, ultimately, they're opinions rather than hard data (and obviously opinions from guys who aren't exactly neutrals to the brand).

So - it's all good that we're getting positive comments from the pros shooting this new model, and it certainly bodes well, but independent analysis does have its place.


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Apr 12, 2016 20:30 |  #1450

There is a 1Dx MkII on the loose. (If you use Chrome, it will translate the page for you.) I hate thieves.

http://www.naturfotoca​mp.de/?a=blog&id=6009 (external link)

easier reading may be here:

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Apr 12, 2016 20:58 |  #1451

I want to save some Christmas surprises about this camera.
You all are so American and want everything now!
A Sony a6300 came today (I know you EOS FF'ers freak at the thought :) and the AF system is
amazing and I mean AMAZING. I don't have a lot of cred with BIF, everynow and sometimes I get lucky:
https://www.flickr.com …/albums/7215766​2637724813 (external link)
but the 1DXii has got to be outstanding because once Sony brings out a 400 or a 100-400 I can
guarantee the BIF/sports/wildlife world will change.


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Apr 13, 2016 03:31 |  #1452

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I want to save some Christmas surprises about this camera.
You all are so American and want everything now!
A Sony a6300 came today (I know you EOS FF'ers freak at the thought :) and the AF system is
amazing and I mean AMAZING. I don't have a lot of cred with BIF, everynow and sometimes I get lucky:
https://www.flickr.com …/albums/7215766​2637724813 (external link)
but the 1DXii has got to be outstanding because once Sony brings out a 400 or a 100-400 I can
guarantee the BIF/sports/wildlife world will change.

Quite a set there
are they all with the Sony a6300 what lens did you use?

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Apr 13, 2016 04:17 |  #1453

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There is a 1Dx MkII on the loose. (If you use Chrome, it will translate the page for you.) I hate thieves.

http://www.naturfotoca​mp.de/?a=blog&id=6009 (external link)

easier reading may be here:

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Ouch. That's really painful.

I can't help thinking though: "He stepped away from his car for about 10 minutes to take pictures" - what gear was he shooting; given what he'd left in the car!

Couldn't say I haven't left a fair bit of kit in a car before, and out of sight in the trunk/boot is hardly being careless; though owning $30k+ of gear without insurance doesn't seem like the greatest idea ever.

Hoping he'll have luck in recovering it, and/or Canon won't charge him for the loaned gear (though I suspect they won't be that impressed that a beta 1Dx II has gone for a walk :-()


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Apr 13, 2016 04:17 as a reply to  @ GyRob's post |  #1454

with the a6300, no. Just got it yesterday.
My BIF work is vastly with 7Dii and 1Div and some Sony a77ii thrown in.
Canon doesn't have to worry yet, Sony has narrowed the dearth of lenses now satisfiying wedding/portrait/lands​cape
but the wildlife togs still find Sony without. They a-mount long FL's are great but sometimes 1/3 pricier than say an equivalent
500 IS ii, and the a-mount Sony cameras are now lackluster and years behind on features and sensor acumen.
For the pro sports shooter I don't think Canon has anything to fear for at least a decade.
But for the aging amateur/hobbyist Sony is getting really interesting.


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Apr 13, 2016 09:30 |  #1455

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #17970215 (external link)
with the a6300, no. Just got it yesterday.
My BIF work is vastly with 7Dii and 1Div and some Sony a77ii thrown in.
Canon doesn't have to worry yet, Sony has narrowed the dearth of lenses now satisfiying wedding/portrait/lands​cape
but the wildlife togs still find Sony without. They a-mount long FL's are great but sometimes 1/3 pricier than say an equivalent
500 IS ii, and the a-mount Sony cameras are now lackluster and years behind on features and sensor acumen.
For the pro sports shooter I don't think Canon has anything to fear for at least a decade.
But for the aging amateur/hobbyist Sony is getting really interesting.

Having tried the 70-200 II on an A7RII with cheaper adapter I do not think it will take 10 years. It was very quick, and I would not hesitate to use it for wildlife, except Bif and fast running stuff, if I had a long enough mkII 300/400/500/600 lens. If Sony bring out a 300 and/or 400 2.8 lens they will start winning over sport togs but they will need a lower MP super fast body, full frame because 42MP is too data at 12fps. They need a FF A6300 ;) and some sort of pro service and support.

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