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Apr 14, 2016 20:45 |  #9691

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Lots of great setups and final photos!

Here's mine:

My daughter's high school indoor percussion ensemble had their homeshow (where they host other schools) last Sunday and with their downtime, I was able to setup in the props garage with the following.

Canon 6D with Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 tethered to laptop running Lightroom CC and external monitor

Main light Neweer NW-985 set at 1/16 power and triggered by Yongnuo YN622C with 31" octobox and boom

Secondary lights: Neewer TT-560 set at 1/32, camera left blue gel on reflective umbrella, camera right red gel on shoot through

Background is 4'x6' black collapsible

DJ smoke machine (pain in the rear because it would cool down after every few shots) between subject and secondary lights

Camera settings 104mm, f/4.5, 1/160 sec., ISO 100
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okay you took "band" photos in a higher level. I shoot this a lot and it's always the boring muslin background with kids and their i instruments. I've been trying to find a way to make the pictures "NOW" and fun. You just gave me a good idea. It is similar to what I do with school choir but this is different. thanks for posting and sharing.


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Apr 14, 2016 20:52 as a reply to  @ PhilF's post |  #9692

You mean like these?


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Apr 14, 2016 20:54 as a reply to  @ PhilF's post |  #9693

This is what gave me the idea.


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Apr 14, 2016 21:02 |  #9694

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oh boy..... it's not you. It is just soooooooooooooo dated. This pose and background.... my god I ask the kids what they really think. They say , mom wanted me to do it. Kids do it out of obligation to mom. They do not like it.


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Apr 14, 2016 21:05 |  #9695

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This is what gave me the idea.
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I actually did something like this a long time ago.... the gel colors are more subtle.

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Apr 14, 2016 21:06 |  #9696

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oh boy..... it's not you. It is just soooooooooooooo dated. This pose and background.... my god I ask the kids what they really think. They say , mom wanted me to do it. Kids do it out of obligation to mom. They do not like it.

LOL! Thanks! Marching season was my "in" to get going and I needed to feel everything out, so I went with the basics. Now, I'll just have to figure out each season's theme and then build portrait ideas from that.

By the way, here is the photo I made for them to use for advertisement of the show. The show is based on "Faust" (https://en.wikipedia.o​rg/wiki/Faust (external link)) and it's 5 parts where Mefistofeles (sp?) gives Faust the love of his life and then calls in his end of the deal and drags him off to hell. Kind of dark, on the band director's end, but it made for interesting photos.


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Apr 14, 2016 21:07 as a reply to  @ PhilF's post |  #9697

Beautiful!


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Apr 14, 2016 21:16 |  #9698

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LOL! Thanks! Marching season was my "in" to get going and I needed to feel everything out, so I went with the basics. Now, I'll just have to figure out each season's theme and then build portrait ideas from that.

By the way, here is the photo I made for them to use for advertisement of the show. The show is based on "Faust" (https://en.wikipedia.o​rg/wiki/Faust (external link)) and it's 5 parts where Mefistofeles (sp?) gives Faust the love of his life and then calls in his end of the deal and drags him off to hell. Kind of dark, on the band director's end, but it made for interesting photos.
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that's pretty fun. Kids will LOVE that.


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Apr 14, 2016 22:06 |  #9699

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Thanks! It got to be a pain near the end too because I wasn't paying attention to how much smoke was in there and I didn't air out before a few shots. Live and learn, then reshoot.

I've also read good reviews about Atmosphere Aerosol (http://petapixel.com …hine-for-your-camera-bag/ (external link)) and would've gotten that if I had time to get a few cans, also if I'd known about the cooling down of the machine. Another thought for next time is to get a fan to push the smoke away from their faces right before shooting, or just have it between the lens and the subject blowing past, not towards.

The other cool thing is each background is different between poses. No need to shoot a bunch and then add them in later with Photoshop. Bad thing, it will set off smoke alarms, hence shooting in the garage and not the school.

A bit of caution using oil based smoke. Either generated or through aerosol cans...

The oils suspended in the air can circulate on the inside of your strobe drawn in from the strobe's cooling fan. Over time, it may gum up and possibly wreck your strobe.

Water based is a bit nicer to strobe electronics.


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Apr 14, 2016 22:09 |  #9700

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A bit of caution using oil based smoke. Either generated or through aerosol cans...

The oils suspended in the air can circulate on the inside of your strobe drawn in from the strobe's cooling fan. Over time, it may gum up and possibly wreck your strobe.

Water based is a bit nicer to strobe electronics.

Thanks for the heads up. By the way, I was using speed lights. No money in budget for strobes yet.


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Angmo wrote in post #17972285 (external link)
A bit of caution using oil based smoke. Either generated or through aerosol cans...

The oils suspended in the air can circulate on the inside of your strobe drawn in from the strobe's cooling fan. Over time, it may gum up and possibly wreck your strobe.

Water based is a bit nicer to strobe electronics.

I did notice this phenomenon when I was making pictures of smoke using incense sticks. Would those be OK? Not that I do this kind of photography regularly, but always good to know.


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Apr 14, 2016 22:18 |  #9702

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Contrasty lighting does indeed look like Caravaggio's portraits.

Thanks! Directional light in darkened settings was a common scheme for portraits of royalty in this era. It signified Divine favor, as if the beam were the finger of the Almighty pointing to the temporal defender of the faith. However, it also served in more mundane paintings and portraits, such as the large trade in the (Protestant) Dutch market of Rembrandt's time. Basically, the Dutch Masters operated the Baroque equivalent of mall photo studios! Remarkably, the contemporary clientele wanted to see still life, mythical subjects, and themselves with this high contrast treatment. These days, the typical photo client wants to see themselves in low contrast, zero shadow renditions. I find this level of taste pretty depressing. Yes, flat lighting disguises the ravages of age, and we apparently need to look like we're 19 forever. As father of a 9-year old, let me confirm that no cosmetic, lotion or 8' umbrella can restore the perfect skin texture of my daughter!

Re Caravaggio, if you want to see one of the greatest portraits ever painted (and my all-time favorite), check out The Cardsharps.


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Thanks! Directional light in darkened settings was a common scheme for portraits of royalty in this era. It signified Divine favor, as if the beam were the finger of the Almighty pointing to the temporal defender of the faith. However, it also served in more mundane paintings and portraits, such as the large trade in the (Protestant) Dutch market of Rembrandt's time. Basically, the Dutch Masters operated the Baroque equivalent of mall photo studios! Remarkably, the contemporary clientele wanted to see still life, mythical subjects, and themselves with this high contrast treatment. These days, the typical photo client wants to see themselves in low contrast, zero shadow renditions. I find this level of taste pretty depressing. Yes, flat lighting disguises the ravages of age, and we apparently need to look like we're 19 forever. As father of a 9-year old, let me confirm that no cosmetic, lotion or 8' umbrella can restore the perfect skin texture of my daughter!

Re Caravaggio, if you want to see one of the greatest portraits ever painted (and my all-time favorite), check out The Cardsharps.

Right on! The Old Masters have also been an inspiration for me. Years ago, a popular painter in his blog advised those beginning to paint to turn towards paintings for inspiration: the older the paintings the better. I took that advise for photography as well.

I've been diggin hard light more and more. Considering that practically every photographer and his brother seem to spring for the largest softbox, or set of softboxes blasting the subject from all directions in a 1:1 ratio, me, the perennial maverick and misfit decided to go in the opposite direction: blast them with a bowl reflector.

Interesting what you mention about the significance of the light. Reminds me of another photographer whose page I landed on once years ago, who used to include in some of his images a patch utterly blown to white, which represented uncreated light. Good stuff.


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Apr 15, 2016 00:17 |  #9704

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I did notice this phenomenon when I was making pictures of smoke using incense sticks. Would those be OK? Not that I do this kind of photography regularly, but always good to know.

Not sure about incense sticks.


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Apr 15, 2016 13:08 |  #9705

The good people at Phase One lent me a demo P1 XF with an IQ350 to play with over the weekend a couple of weekends ago. My friend Martin was happy to let me test it on him, so I set up a portable studio in his small kitchen =)

Here's the BTS and final result.


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