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Apr 19, 2016 20:19 |  #1

Anyone got opinions on these 2? I know its probably been brought up a lot. I have the 7D now, but I've never owned a full frame camera. Im on a budget and was thinking of picking up a 5D.


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Apr 19, 2016 20:44 |  #2

The 5D is cheap enough to try out a FF without losing any real amount of money, and it will let you know whether FF is a long term thing or not for what you shoot.


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Apr 19, 2016 23:04 |  #3

I think the only difference you'll see is the FOV, 1.6x vs. 1.0x. The 5Dc is old enough that it isn't much better wrt noise than the 7D, at native values (100-1600 for the 5Dc). At 3200, the 7D will be better. And the 7D can go higher, cleanly. I had a 5Dc and 60D (same sensor as 7D) at the same time. I did not see much difference in the two.

At some point, I sold the 5Dc and picked up a 6D. HUGE difference! The 6D has an almost 2-stop high ISO advantage over similar generation crop bodies. I can shoot the 6D at 12800 in JPG, and get clean results. 25600 is usable, if I do everything right before I release the shutter. The 6D outshines every aspect of the 5Dc's auto-focus, too. AF on the 6D is uncannily good. On the 5Dc, it is frustratingly bearable, with the center point. The others may as well not be there.

Then again, the 5Dc has the best shutter sound ever produced.




  
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Apr 19, 2016 23:43 |  #4

I have a 5D and just recently picked up a 7D. The 5D has no bells or whistles, it's only advantages are the image quality and field of view. Noise levels are comparable, but the 5D has better noise. Oh, and it goes down to ISO 50. AF is good enough for most applications, just a hair better than my 40D. You will likely use the centre AF point most of the time and recompose if necessary.

The 7D is much faster and sounds cleaner (every 5D I've handled makes a terrible shutter noise). The advanced features are nice, I bought it for the AF and am just a bit dissapointed. I typically bring the 7D to events and use the 5D for landscapes and portraits. Would probably sell the 7D before the 5D.

I would recommend trying FF with a 5D before going all-out on a 6D/5D2/3. You may be happy with it and your 7D together.


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Apr 19, 2016 23:47 |  #5

I bought a 5D to complement 7D and I've used it alot. Its gotten a lot of car show use as well as some of the outdoor events I shoot where I can hang my 17-40 or my 24-105 on it and leave the 70-200 on the 7D. It does have noise issues indoors at high ISO so I generally use a flash inside. The 5D also teaches you to work off the top LCD panel as you have a hard time correcting setting using the back LCD (a habit my Rebel got me into).

If you get one, make sure its had the mirror fix, mine didn't and I'm in the process of fixing it.

If you can get one cheap enough, go for it. Once you upgrade past it, you can flip it for the same price you bought it for or use it as a project camera (mine is getting converted to DIR once I get a better FF camera).




  
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Apr 20, 2016 00:04 |  #6

if you shoot sports or birds day in day out, stick with your 7D, anything else and the 5Dc produces better quality images. Of course if you go 6D and newer it gets dramatically better.


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Apr 21, 2016 14:51 |  #7

Thanks everybody. I'm shooting mostly portraits and landscapes which is why the 5D is interesting me. I hadn't heard the AF is so bad though. The center point is really the only usable AF point? Thats a little disappointing.


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Apr 21, 2016 14:53 |  #8

It sounds like a 6D would be the best option. So maybe I'll see how I like the FF on a 5D, flip both of my bodies and just use the 6D. I don't need two bodies really anyway. I'd like to try out the 5D for awhile though.


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Apr 21, 2016 14:58 as a reply to  @ BrodyBPhoto's post |  #9

I have both- just picked up the 5d recently so haven't really put it through paces yet. I would say that on one shot mode, with stationary subjects, I've done OK with the outer points. They're not as good as the 7d's outer points, and they can't track a moving subject to save their little lives, but they're not totally useless for the subjects you mention.

Edit: I'm doing pretty much the same thing you are. Picked mine up locally on CL for $270, and using it to play with FF and decide whether I want to stick with APS-C for the long haul (probably 7d3) or start preparing for the 6d2...



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Apr 21, 2016 15:21 |  #10

bseitz234 wrote in post #17979940 (external link)
I have both- just picked up the 5d recently so haven't really put it through paces yet. I would say that on one shot mode, with stationary subjects, I've done OK with the outer points. They're not as good as the 7d's outer points, and they can't track a moving subject to save their little lives, but they're not totally useless for the subjects you mention.

Exactly. The centre point is double cross-type, and is actually surrounded by six 'assistive' points. It is very usable (even when tracking moving objects). The side points suffice in good lighting and stationary subjects.

Buy one and flip it if you feel you want the 6D. For the price, you can't really go wrong.


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Apr 21, 2016 19:47 |  #11

Yeah I just picked one up on ebay. $390 with a few batteries, extra cards and a lowepro bag. It seems pretty mint, we'll see once I get in my hands lol. Thanks guys


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