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Apr 21, 2016 09:25 |  #16

jlt23 wrote in post #17979576 (external link)
I'm leaning towards a Synology DS416 with 4 WD 4 TB red drives.

Fortunately the price of this type of gear is CHEAP!! in the US. It was extremely painful to buy my Qnap and 6tb Red's locally in Canada.

At the end of the day you will almost forget that you spent that money. The convenience of a NAS system is so beneficial. I automatically throw all of my IP Camera video logs in my NAS. Creating your own cloud is "cool" but the upload limitation of your "average" ISP service will possibly drive you nuts. I still use dropbox for large file transfers.


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Apr 21, 2016 12:30 |  #17

There is a lot of great advice here. Sadly, the OP doesn't site what sort of budget to work within.

Personally, I started off with a Synology 412+ and recently upgraded to a newer 1815+ model. Once I figured out how to use Lightroom with the NAS (keep the catalog local and store your RAW files on the NAS), I never looked back. Any new photos I add to my library are automatically backed up the same evening (duplicate copies to separate hard drives). I use RAID simply because it is an option but I've experienced enough RAID failures in my professional career to know better than to count on RAID to save my data.


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Apr 21, 2016 13:44 as a reply to  @ AlanU's post |  #18

Alan, who's your provider? I'm with Telus but they block port 80 (I think that was the one) that prevented me from setting up OwnCloud.


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Apr 21, 2016 13:50 |  #19

Like everyone else here I'd recommend getting a 4 bay NAS. You will want to upgrade and the ability to use different types of RAID depending on your needs is nice. I ended up with a 4 bay Asustor NAS because the Synology was much more expensive, Asustor was just starting out in NAS but make a ton of computer equipment, and the specs were very good. It works for me but I would have bought a Synology if I had the extra money. The DSM software is excellent in Synologys.


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Apr 21, 2016 15:00 |  #20

I'm glad I'm seeing all of the positive comments on Synology.


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Apr 21, 2016 15:10 |  #21

Or Build your own "Synology"http://us.hardware.inf​o …y-build-your-own-synology (external link)


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Apr 21, 2016 16:00 |  #22

Look into QNAP. I have a 4 bay and it kicks ass!


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Apr 21, 2016 16:07 |  #23

flowrider wrote in post #17979857 (external link)
Alan, who's your provider? I'm with Telus but they block port 80 (I think that was the one) that prevented me from setting up OwnCloud.

I use Shaw. I can't remember but I setup my cloud with my Qnap. However I almost never use it remotely because my broadband 60 at home has a slow upload of 6 Mbps. I see more advantage using dropbox. DB would be slow upload but remotely it'll be faster pulling stuff off their service.


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Apr 21, 2016 16:10 as a reply to  @ AlanU's post |  #24

Thanks. I use dropbox and google drive as well. It's just one of the few things I can't get to work because Telus blocks so many ports. Frustrating part is that that the Synology Cloudstation did work but I hated how it handled photos on any mobile platform.


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Apr 21, 2016 16:10 |  #25

jlt23 wrote in post #17979941 (external link)
I'm glad I'm seeing all of the positive comments on Synology.

Synology has it's nice proprietary raid system.

I have only used Qnap but so far it's been working fine for me.

What individuals may find is that once you adapt to your "brand" you'll just get comfortable regardless of what brand you buy.

I use Qnap 451 and it's responsive and it works...that's all I care about :)


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Apr 21, 2016 16:19 |  #26

IF you buy a NAS I strongly suggest buying a pure sine wave power backup system UPS. This way the UPS detects a power outage and your NAS has time to shutdown properly.

I purchased a cyberpower unit:

http://www.newegg.ca …o4wh7gNo99DlKhx​oC45Tw_wcB (external link)

I've heard some nasty catastrophic failures when an outage has wiped out a NAS system.

Even a simulated sine wave UPS will give the NAS time to shutdown. Depending on how yours is setup you can shut down the NAS via USB cable connected to the UPS to trigger a shutdown sequence.


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Apr 21, 2016 16:50 |  #27

AlanU wrote in post #17980022 (external link)
IF you buy a NAS I strongly suggest buying a pure sine wave power backup system UPS. This way the UPS detects a power outage and your NAS has time to shutdown properly.

I purchased a cyberpower unit:

http://www.newegg.ca …o4wh7gNo99DlKhx​oC45Tw_wcB (external link)

I've heard some nasty catastrophic failures when an outage has wiped out a NAS system.

Even a simulated sine wave UPS will give the NAS time to shutdown. Depending on how yours is setup you can shut down the NAS via USB cable connected to the UPS to trigger a shutdown sequence.

Pure vs. stepped sine wave is a function of the type of power supply it will be powering, not the function of the load or the runtime.

Active PFC power supplies don't run on stepped waves. Since active PFC is more and more common, I only recommend pure sine wave UPSs just to be safe. I have several of the Cyberpower units you linked to and they're great.




  
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Apr 21, 2016 17:55 |  #28

AlanU wrote in post #17980022 (external link)
IF you buy a NAS I strongly suggest buying a pure sine wave power backup system UPS. This way the UPS detects a power outage and your NAS has time to shutdown properly.

I purchased a cyberpower unit:

http://www.newegg.ca …o4wh7gNo99DlKhx​oC45Tw_wcB (external link)

I've heard some nasty catastrophic failures when an outage has wiped out a NAS system.

Even a simulated sine wave UPS will give the NAS time to shutdown. Depending on how yours is setup you can shut down the NAS via USB cable connected to the UPS to trigger a shutdown sequence.

This times a bajillion!

I have a unit similar to this (slightly less capable) and it works wonderfully.


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May 02, 2016 14:10 |  #29

Ordered my Synology DS416, 4 - 4TB WD Red HD, and a UPS. Should be here this weekend. Now I need to figure out how to set it up and transfer my photos without screwing things up in Lightroom.


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May 02, 2016 14:32 |  #30

jlt23 wrote in post #17993222 (external link)
Ordered my Synology DS416, 4 - 4TB WD Red HD, and a UPS. Should be here this weekend. Now I need to figure out how to set it up and transfer my photos without screwing things up in Lightroom.

First, be sure to leave your database on your computer. Just move the images.

Its actually pretty easy. Create a folder on the Synology (either on an existing share or a new one) and make sure you can read/write to it before trying to use it in Lightroom. In LR's Library, go to Folders on the left, click the + and choose new folder. Point it to the folder on your NAS. You'll now have two top level folders listed. Now just drag and drop whatever you want to the new folder within Lightroom. Moving files within LR ensures that your database can find them so your edits are all preserved.




  
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