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Apr 27, 2016 22:17 |  #1711

If Adorama, B&H, Amazon, Best Buy, Etc. don't pan out with available stock I'll move on to local shops within a ten hour radius of where I live, and that's a very large portion of the East coast. Worth the drive if I have to make it. If that doesn't work, because hey let's be real you are correct Erik in saying that the last two launches were fraught with delays, then I'll just shoot the event with my 5D3 and 6D and wait patiently for the Mark II to arrive by normal means. I'll be fine with what I have. But I'm getting one regardless of how long it takes. Though, obviously, I'd prefer it before June. Hey, a guy can dream right? And then work every angle to make that dream come true. ;-)a




  
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Apr 27, 2016 22:40 |  #1712

Uploaded more images from today morning's quick run. Primarily looked at shadow recovery. Pretty happy with low noise while recovering shadows 100%. Whatever noise there is, gets cleaned up pretty easily.

JPGs uploaded. RAW files should get uploaded in another 15 mins. Same link: https://drive.google.c​om …lyVV8zdUxhbVU&u​sp=sharing (external link)

I have an event tonight and a wedding tomorrow to cover. Both being night events should be good test for this beast. Lets see :)


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Apr 27, 2016 22:41 |  #1713

wallstreetoneil wrote in post #17987128 (external link)
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when you zoom in at 4:1 on the 12,8 and 25,6 you can see a huge difference in noise

that said, 40 sharpening, 40 Masking, 20 Luminance NR in LR and there is basically no difference of the 25,6k ISO and 12,800

with 'only' 20 megapixels, unlike the 5DSR's 50, you have to use less NR with 1DX II files, and I think 20 - 25 Luminance NR at 25,600 ISO, after playing with it a bunch, seems to be the sweet spot, of that tradeoff - file looks fine at 1:1 and therefore will make a good print - anything higher ISO I don't think will stand up for large prints, if you are very anal, but for Social Media you should be able to use 50 or 100k - for gritty B&W pictures, you can easily use 51,2K ISO

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12,800 ISO 1:1 center frame crop NO Luminance NR

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25,600 ISO 1:1 center frame crop with NR (40 Sharpening, 40 Masking, 20 Luminance NR)

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/GBo3​Vm  (external link) 1Dx II 1:1 crop center frame (external link) by Paul O'Neil (external link), on Flickr

51,200 ISO 1:1 center frame crop with NR (40 Sharpening, 50 Masking, 40 Luminance NR)
- i didn't do any other work on the file except what is listed here
- after posting this, I played with the individual colour saturations and luminances, and you can play enough with the 51,200 file and almost get it to look like the 12,800 file for small sized prints and therefore for most uses, you can use this camera in Auto ISO upto 50k
- the caviat is the incamera jpegs use too much NR smoothing for high ISO files so much better to did it yourself in RAW
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well there ya go. Look at 25000 ISo.......Nuff said. 51000 looks like it might work in a pinch......12800 all day long

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AND THAT DOESNT INCLUDE THE AF


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Apr 27, 2016 22:47 |  #1714

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And we have a winner! First POTN member to receive one!!

Thanks for uploading some pics for us...I can't wait to check them out tonight.

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ha ha.. thanks Bryan! I didn't realize I was the first one on POTN... however I indeed was pretty excited to share samples with the gang here :D


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Apr 27, 2016 22:48 |  #1715

Erik S. Klein wrote in post #17987601 (external link)
I ordered a spare battery with my pre-order and I hope it comes in with or near the camera.

I also ordered the Pelican Air with TrekPak which is slated to start shipping on May 1...

The cFast card... I'm gonna wait until I figure out what I really need and until the prices drop just a bit.

Very cool that you ordered the new Pelican Air w/ TrekPak! I'm interested in hearing about it after it arrives. Hopefully I'll see some posts in the Accessories forum!

I also ordered an extra battery. As for CFast cards, I'm also going to wait until they come down in price. It won't take too long once the orders start rolling in and the competition to get buyers starts up. In the meantime, I"ll get buy with the free 64 GB CFast card and the collection of Lexar 1066x CF cards that I already own. Hopefully we'll see CFast prices dropping sometime alter this year.

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Apr 27, 2016 22:48 |  #1716

aehric wrote in post #17987607 (external link)
Yep. Like I said, I hold no illusions to my chances. I'm still going to try though. What's the harm in trying. ;-)a

I do believe that you can get a camera if you try. You'll just have to follow Bryan's advice and hit up smaller retailers with less demand for their stock. :)


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Apr 27, 2016 22:52 |  #1717

bps wrote in post #17987643 (external link)
Very cool that you ordered the new Pelican Air w/ TrekPak! I'm interested in hearing about it after it arrives. Hopefully I'll see some posts in the Accessories forum!

I'm sure I'll post some reviews.

I love my 1510 but that sucker is heavy with all of my kit... Shaving several pounds will help a lot. I almost ordered the TrekPak via Kickstarter when they were there but didn't pull the trigger, so now's my chance. A day late and a dollar short, as always. . .


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Apr 27, 2016 23:16 |  #1718

Aehric I'll also second a vote to Allen's Camera in Pa. Give them a call and ask for Brandon.
They've helped me many a time....


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Apr 27, 2016 23:24 |  #1719

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #17987665 (external link)
Aehric I'll also second a vote to Allen's Camera in Pa. Give them a call and ask for Brandon.
They've helped me many a time....

I definitely will. Honestly I put the pre-order in at Adorama as a safety net and can cancel it any time if I find a better option. I'm familiar with Allen's. I've also got a few camera stores in my state, NC, if all else fails.




  
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Apr 27, 2016 23:26 |  #1720

Thanks for the tips everyone. Very much appreciated. I'll keep you posted on how it goes as things progress. :-)




  
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Apr 28, 2016 03:07 |  #1721

OoF wrote in post #17987633 (external link)
Uploaded more images from today morning's quick run. Primarily looked at shadow recovery. Pretty happy with low noise while recovering shadows 100%. Whatever noise there is, gets cleaned up pretty easily.

JPGs uploaded. RAW files should get uploaded in another 15 mins. Same link: https://drive.google.c​om …lyVV8zdUxhbVU&u​sp=sharing (external link)

I have an event tonight and a wedding tomorrow to cover. Both being night events should be good test for this beast. Lets see :)


really appreciate these - thanks

(a few of yours using the raws)


So far, what I see (not specifically with just these photos but everything so far), is that Canon has continued with what it started with the 5DSR, then the 80D and now a lower pixel density, large pixel camera that I think, while very good at high ISO, may actually shine the most at ISO 100 in a studio - with beautiful rich colours on human skin tones. I think the A7Rii may still have very slightly better colours and DR at low ISO but it is getting much much closer with this camera.

ISO 100

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/GEwK​ta  (external link) 1DX II ISO 100 (external link) by Paul O'Neil (external link), on Flickr

ISO 100 (EV +1.45, Shadows +100, Highlights -86, Blacks -66 - plus pushed the blue channel to see if there was any blue left in the sky)

IMAGE: https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1575/26624123571_a2728eeb2f_b.jpg
IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/GyFA​ni  (external link) 1DX II ISO 100 (external link) by Paul O'Neil (external link), on Flickr


ISO 800

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/FJZT​ds  (external link) 1DX II ISO 800 (external link) by Paul O'Neil (external link), on Flickr

ISO 800 (+3EV +100 shadows -90 highlights -50 blacks +10NR +10 masking )

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ISO 800 (almost 1:1 crop)

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/GwjC​2q  (external link) 1DX II ISO 800 (external link) by Paul O'Neil (external link), on Flickr

Hockey and wedding photographer. Favourite camera / lens combos: a 1DX II with a Tamron 45 1.8 VC, an A7Rii with a Canon 24-70F2.8L II, and a 5DSR with a Tamron 85 1.8 VC. Every lens I own I strongly recommend [Canon (35Lii, 100L Macro, 24-70F2.8ii, 70-200F2.8ii, 100-400Lii), Tamron (45 1.8, 85 1.8), Sigma 24-105]. If there are better lenses out there let me know because I haven't found them.

  
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Apr 28, 2016 03:10 as a reply to  @ OoF's post |  #1722

OoF thanks for the samples.
PLEASE post up the dimly lit wedding shots if you can.
Have to agree that 12K ISO will be a charm and that is what I'm ponying up for.
I could have used the fps yesterday though....trying to work a Tree Swallow at 10 fps with
the 1Div and kept cutting the bird in half :( So I'm hoping 4 more chances in a second might
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Apr 28, 2016 08:16 |  #1723

I see this cam has iTR. Not sure how many previous 1DX owners followed 7D2 forums but I did a summary on iTR and it should be close on the 1DX II.

iTR – Intelligent Tracking and Recognition which executes AF by recognizing faces and colors.

In AI Servo mode, the camera remembers the color at the position it is focused on first, then continues to track and focus the subject switching AF points to track that color. It is an assist to the normal AF tracking system. If it can’t find a colour it will track the normal way but will slow things down as the system uses resources looking for a colour. A person in a brown track suit with a brown hat running in front of bushes in late fall is not so good.

In one-shot AF mode iTR basically looks for faces. The manual states that when activated it will take longer to acquire focus which makes sense. I’m not sure if a person could even tell as AF happens in milliseconds. It also states that if a face is too small in the frame it may have trouble finding it.

On the 7D2 iTR never activates in spot, single or expansion mores. If iTR is enabled (camera menus) it will activate in all zone AF modes only. So you may want to keep this in mind because if it is enabled and you go from expansion to zone AF tracking characteristics will change. It is enabled from the factory on the 7D2.

I turned mine off long ago but plan to try it this summer. There were a few known birders who tested it and said it worked good in AI Servo. Art Morris was one.

Of course there may be some differences on the 1DX II. Just thought a heads up might be helpful.


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Apr 28, 2016 09:02 |  #1724

I have question. Being an owner both the 7D2 and 5D3 the 7D2 has all cross type AF points. The 5D3 has some horizontal points which I have disabled. I noticed this on the IDX II as well. There are more dual type and other improvements but I'm wondering why Canon would not have made the horizontal points dual at this stage of the game?


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Apr 28, 2016 09:04 |  #1725

Current 1Dx owners

what plate are you mounting at the bottom for protection.

Im looking at this one from pro media...dont like the good one....secure ars on bottom really dug into my MKIV


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