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Apr 28, 2016 13:52 |  #421

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Apr 30, 2016 19:31 as a reply to  @ ptcanon3ti's post |  #422

My daughter was performing at the local Arts festival (no the little girl in the picture is not my daughter, she was off in a corner being pouty lol) and I had the opportunity to take some candids of the dancers interacting prior to showtime. Here are just two of various shots I had the chance to take, love taking candids because the moments are so fleeting and it removes any opportunity to think, you just act and work on feeling :) (I always do better when I take my over-analyzing brain out of the equation!)


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Apr 30, 2016 19:47 |  #423

Here was my pouty child and the younger wild child lol. I have to repeat I LOVE how malleable the D750 files are, plenty of room to play with, especially for those times I miss the exposure for whatever reason... I am amazed at how many useable shots I get... also I am so happy that my Tamron 24-70 2.8 VC is decently sharp... I wouldn't say it is the sharpest lens I have but it does well enough wide open. The second shot is my youngest, the wild child, she was hugging on my leg laying on my foot, tried to grab a quick snap before she moved but unfortunately I did not have my AF point to center and missed focus just before she scampered off...managed to get this one though!


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Apr 30, 2016 22:26 |  #424

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so...for events shooters, reading weddings :), what profile do u use ?
adobe standard - way too much orange. i hate orange :D
camera standard - very good for outdoor, adds a lil contrast, colours are nice
camera portrait - best for trash the dress, where u post-process alot the images.
but, for now, i could not find a good indoor profile. when only 1 main light source avaible, the skin is nice with camera landscape, but when i add a flash, or some dj's coloured lights, it gets tricky and i have to work more with saturation levels, shadows calibration, etc.

what suit u better ?

for the record, i always shoot raw.

Not sure if this was ever answered but I tried camera standard and portrait and the other "camera" profiles in Lightroom and while test driving it I kept telling myself, "that's nice, but there is something I am not happy about." I was much happier with my older files that were processed starting with Adobe Standard and then doing multiple tweaks.. but then again I was trying to make my worflow more efficient by starting at a nicer base position... I finally figured out what I wasn't happy with. When I went back to some old dance pictures I noticed I had done them in Adobe Standard and needed to finish some of them and figured I could start at Camera Standard.... ugh!!! The smudging and loss of fine color detail was extremely noticeable to me in these pictures! After checking out several different sets I kept noticing the same, if I was unaware of the fine grain details I might be ok with those settings but I have gone back to starting at Adobe Standard and merely created my own Presets that best come close to mimicking Portrait, Standard, Vivid etc. and then just use them as needed, I said mimicked because I had to spend time massaging them so as not to lose much of the fine grain detail I had seen disappearing in pictures when I used the Camara presets in LR...

It is always possible I am doing or seeing something wrong but just my experience so far and preference (but then again I claim no crown towards being a genius at LR and feel rather noobish at times!)


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May 01, 2016 01:51 |  #425

werds wrote in post #17991167 (external link)
Not sure if this was ever answered but I tried camera standard and portrait and the other "camera" profiles in Lightroom and while test driving it I kept telling myself, "that's nice, but there is something I am not happy about." I was much happier with my older files that were processed starting with Adobe Standard and then doing multiple tweaks.. but then again I was trying to make my worflow more efficient by starting at a nicer base position... I finally figured out what I wasn't happy with. When I went back to some old dance pictures I noticed I had done them in Adobe Standard and needed to finish some of them and figured I could start at Camera Standard.... ugh!!! The smudging and loss of fine color detail was extremely noticeable to me in these pictures! After checking out several different sets I kept noticing the same, if I was unaware of the fine grain details I might be ok with those settings but I have gone back to starting at Adobe Standard and merely created my own Presets that best come close to mimicking Portrait, Standard, Vivid etc. and then just use them as needed, I said mimicked because I had to spend time massaging them so as not to lose much of the fine grain detail I had seen disappearing in pictures when I used the Camara presets in LR...

It is always possible I am doing or seeing something wrong but just my experience so far and preference (but then again I claim no crown towards being a genius at LR and feel rather noobish at times!)


Sorry for bothering but I'd like to have an opinion about a lens.
I see you've got the 70-200 F2.8 with a 24-70; I own 24-120 and would like to buy the Sigma 70-200 F2.8, it has a good price. In your opinion, is it worth the money or would I use just a little?
I thought I could use it, e.g., for my son's shows at school; low light and so F2.8 is ok, distance and so the zoom 70-200 comes in handy.
Am I right?
Thanks in advance,
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May 01, 2016 03:31 |  #426

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May 01, 2016 07:41 |  #427

Fabercula wrote in post #17991341 (external link)
Sorry for bothering but I'd like to have an opinion about a lens.
I see you've got the 70-200 F2.8 with a 24-70; I own 24-120 and would like to buy the Sigma 70-200 F2.8, it has a good price. In your opinion, is it worth the money or would I use just a little?
I thought I could use it, e.g., for my son's shows at school; low light and so F2.8 is ok, distance and so the zoom 70-200 comes in handy.
Am I right?
Thanks in advance,
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Never a bother! The answer becomes about economics first. Can you afford a lens in your budget that might see limited use based on what you do. I love my 70-200 2.8 (currently the sharpest lens I own and spot on AF), for me this is a hobby and I make no money from it (an occasional couple of dollars here but I am not advertising as a business because my life is too hectic)... I decided the cost of the lens (I bought for 785 used I think) was worth the cost of paying a pro for recital pictures over a period of a few years... and our dance studio doesn't have a pro at our dance recitals so was a no brainer. I use it pretty much only for those indoor times and occasionally on the softball field where the focal length isn't too bad to use because the field is smaller.

As you already know the 2.8 is perfect for low light and the 70-200 now allows me to go wide enough when I need to get a full stage shot or a large group shot and zooms close enough that I can get fairly detailed shots. And even on some, I can still do a heavy crop and get nice results - not award winning but I am happy with the results and other dancers love them compared to their phone or point and shoot results. The only drawback is that now when I am taking the pictures I tend to be in the back of the theatre in order to get a good angle and be able to use the full focal range well.

So the economics only you can answer, the rest is a big fat YES!!!


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May 01, 2016 09:19 as a reply to  @ werds's post |  #428

Mr. Werds, since you own both the d750 and d7200 how do you compare the white balance of the jpg's of the 2 cameras. I find, when handling the 7200 in the store, that the WB to be much better "out of the box" than the d750.


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May 01, 2016 11:08 |  #429

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Mr. Werds, since you own both the d750 and d7200 how do you compare the white balance of the jpg's of the 2 cameras. I find, when handling the 7200 in the store, that the WB to be much better "out of the box" than the d750.


Well that is a thing that I find odd about the two. When using the D7200 outdoors I like the white balance MUCH more, but whenever the light becomes challenging or you have an odd mixture of lighting the D750 nails the white balance much better if sometimes slightly warm by 100 to 300 (on the 1000k scale). I think the reason for that is that the D750 has a slightly upgraded system for WB that when you have a wilder array of challenging colors it gets closer to correct, sometimes it is still out to left field wrong but more often than not I am impressed by how close large batches of shots are... The D7200 on the other hand gets more spot on in outdoors stuff that I have done and when the lighting isn't challenging.

But that is just my personal preference since I know that there is no one "correct" balance and even then my taste on correct white balance continues to change over time!


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May 01, 2016 14:10 |  #430

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Well that is a thing that I find odd about the two. When using the D7200 outdoors I like the white balance MUCH more, but whenever the light becomes challenging or you have an odd mixture of lighting the D750 nails the white balance much better if sometimes slightly warm by 100 to 300 (on the 1000k scale). I think the reason for that is that the D750 has a slightly upgraded system for WB that when you have a wilder array of challenging colors it gets closer to correct, sometimes it is still out to left field wrong but more often than not I am impressed by how close large batches of shots are... The D7200 on the other hand gets more spot on in outdoors stuff that I have done and when the lighting isn't challenging.

But that is just my personal preference since I know that there is no one "correct" balance and even then my taste on correct white balance continues to change over time!

I would expect them to be slightly different because from what I've read the sensor in the D750 is a Sony and the sensor in the d7200 is a Toshiba, and there is no low pass filter in the D7200 (possibly giving less tint and a bit brighter image).


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May 05, 2016 06:17 as a reply to  @ russ49's post |  #432

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May 05, 2016 06:20 |  #433

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May 06, 2016 20:28 |  #434

Although I hate doing weird format crops I prefer doing this to remove the clutter from wide angle shots on my zoom. In the first picture that is my daughter on the far left during one of her two dance routines at a recent arts festival performance.


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May 06, 2016 20:32 |  #435

And these two were from another pair of dances, I just loved the look of each of these particular shots in black and white :) Oddly enough when I had processed them in color I instantly told myself I needed to process them in black and white...


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