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May 05, 2016 13:31 |  #17266

Just in case any of you needed a place to spend money and also needed a new bag, you'll be happy to know that Peak Design just put out a smaller version of the Everyday Messenger bag. I know a lot of people said the original was too big for their Mirrorless gear so looks like they listened and made a 13" version. Still looks kinda big but doesn't help that the one picture they show on a person is a smaller female.

$30 cheaper, so still on the expensive side at $220 but for those looking at it but thinking it was too big, at least they listened.

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May 05, 2016 13:53 |  #17267

nekrosoft13 wrote in post #17996767 (external link)
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It takes time actually shooting with something for a while to figure out what you want to do. I straddled two systems for a while too. There are still some things I like native Canon bodies for...but experience showed me that I was using my Sony far more frequently so I sold the body to fund more lenses.

My first venture into mirrorless was E-M5, was a great camera, I still like Olympus, and I wanted more!

So when E-M1 was released I end up with E-M1, and I gotta say its still my favorite camera of all time, I still had the 5DIII as well.
Shortly after getting the E-M1, I decided to get the A7R, for 4-6 months I had 3 camera systems, but the a7R, had way to many flaws, AF system wasn't good, loud, build quality questionable, shutter shock, metabones was a joke back then.... ao A7R had to go.

shortly after that I bought E-M10 for my fiance, she loved the camera.
I really like the Olympus system, but that 4/3 sensor always bothered me, the size, the shape of it.

When a7II was released I was impressed with the changes, but decided to wait for the new R, when a7RII was released after trying it first, I decided to make the jump.
At one point I bought the Canon M3, and my fiance hates that camera with a passion.

E-M1, E-M10, 5DIII all had to go, recently also bought a6300 and A6300 is my fiance's preferred camera now.

If Olympus ever makes full frame camera, that could easily tempt me to switch again.
E-M1 is still the best camera ever released for me, if only they would drop that 4/3 sensors.

But anyway, I had 3 systems at one point, I still technically have 2, but the 7DII haven't been used in 4+ months.

Canon still might be better with longer telephotos, but that is also due to there not being any native longer telephotos lenses available.


I fully agree. I was exactly the same in fact I'm still the same. I have my 70d with 70-200 f4is and the speed is awesome. I have my a7 with a bunch of rok lenses and old Minolta Glass. And my em5.if got the em 5 first I prob wouldn'thave got any thing else. I like that cam best of every thing I've owned. All 3 have the pros and cons though. I am on the fence for the a72 so I think I'll wait til a73 is released which will enter a bunch of used models. I woukd love the a7r2 but can't justify it right now. Who knows though. When the new models are released a a7r2 may come up for a good price.


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May 05, 2016 14:33 |  #17268

TRhoads wrote in post #17996531 (external link)
I wish I could afford to take the 70-200 off your hands...that is one thing I lack at all...something longer than 85mm...

Last one from last week...then its off on the next adventure to the Smokies this weekend...
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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/GPX4​yY  (external link) Moss Rock (external link) by Travis Rhoads (external link), on Flickr

The colour in this is superb


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May 05, 2016 14:36 |  #17269

David Arbogast wrote in post #17996308 (external link)
Going to give the Loxia 21mm a try...just placed an order.

Will be keeping the 16-35mm, but will be selling my 24-70L II and maybe even 70-200. Easy reason: just don't use them much. What can I say? I'm a WA junkie. Maybe I should get Batis 18 and 25 too. :p

Great choice David. Go for the Batis 18 too or wait for the Loxia 15 if it is announced.




  
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May 05, 2016 14:40 |  #17270

I think you should get the batis 25 and loxia 21 and then tell me if you think they are far enough apart ;) (99% sold on batis 18 but the size of the loxia is appealing)

Kidding aside would look forward to seeing your loxia 21 shots


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May 05, 2016 14:43 |  #17271

Travis, I have enjoyed your recent photos. The colors really pop in that last one.




  
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May 05, 2016 15:16 |  #17272

digital_AM wrote in post #17996945 (external link)
Great choice David. Go for the Batis 18 too or wait for the Loxia 15 if it is announced.

I really think I'll be doing that. The 18mm looks incredibly appealing.

xpfloyd wrote in post #17996947 (external link)
I think you should get the batis 25 and loxia 21 and then tell me if you think they are far enough apart ;) (99% sold on batis 18 but the size of the loxia is appealing)

Kidding aside would look forward to seeing your loxia 21 shots

Someone posted a comparative graphic visualizing the focal lengths of all the Loxias and Batis' here: https://www.flickr.com …21112/in/pool-2931483@N24 (external link)

I think I'm going to be sold on the Batis 18mm as well. And the Batis 25mm enjoys a stop faster, so that's highly appealing too.

How is the Batis 25mm for astro? Coma correction good? Still keeping the Samyang 24?


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May 05, 2016 15:20 |  #17273

David Arbogast wrote in post #17996986 (external link)
I really think I'll be doing that. The 18mm looks incredibly appealing.

Someone posted a comparative graphic visualizing the focal lengths of all the Loxias and Batis' here: https://www.flickr.com …21112/in/pool-2931483@N24 (external link)

I think I'm going to be sold on the Batis 18mm as well. And the Batis 25mm enjoys a stop faster, so that's highly appealing too.

How is the Batis 25mm for astro? Coma correction good? Still keeping the Samyang 24?

It was me that actually posted that and its also the graphic that put me off the loxia 21 when I realised how close it was to the batis 25 which I am loving.

I havent had the chance to try the batis for astro yet as been working a lot of overtime recently on a job my company has on atbthe moment (helped fund the batis lenses though so cant complain). But its something I need to try asap. The rokinon 24 is crazy good even for normal landscape shots so I need to be sure before I think about selling it. To be honest I see myself keeping the rokinon regardless . I see the batis 18 fitting the batis 25 better. Its what's getting me through all these shifts at the moment :)


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May 05, 2016 15:41 |  #17274

xpfloyd wrote in post #17996947 (external link)
I think you should get the batis 25 and loxia 21 and then tell me if you think they are far enough apart ;) (99% sold on batis 18 but the size of the loxia is appealing)

Kidding aside would look forward to seeing your loxia 21 shots

while the loxia 21 looks smaller, the batis 18 actually weighs 100g less from what I remember. Should feel about as heavy or a tad more than the FE 55 I think.


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May 05, 2016 17:02 |  #17275

nekrosoft13 wrote in post #17996767 (external link)
My first venture into mirrorless was E-M5, was a great camera, I still like Olympus, and I wanted more!

So when E-M1 was released I end up with E-M1, and I gotta say its still my favorite camera of all time, I still had the 5DIII as well.
Shortly after getting the E-M1, I decided to get the A7R, for 4-6 months I had 3 camera systems, but the a7R, had way to many flaws, AF system wasn't good, loud, build quality questionable, shutter shock, metabones was a joke back then.... ao A7R had to go.

shortly after that I bought E-M10 for my fiance, she loved the camera.
I really like the Olympus system, but that 4/3 sensor always bothered me, the size, the shape of it.

When a7II was released I was impressed with the changes, but decided to wait for the new R, when a7RII was released after trying it first, I decided to make the jump.
At one point I bought the Canon M3, and my fiance hates that camera with a passion.

E-M1, E-M10, 5DIII all had to go, recently also bought a6300 and A6300 is my fiance's preferred camera now.

If Olympus ever makes full frame camera, that could easily tempt me to switch again.
E-M1 is still the best camera ever released for me, if only they would drop that 4/3 sensors.

But anyway, I had 3 systems at one point, I still technically have 2, but the 7DII haven't been used in 4+ months.

Canon still might be better with longer telephotos, but that is also due to there not being any native longer telephotos lenses available.

The E-M1 is my favorite camera I've used so far, so much so that I've gone back to it. I enjoyed shooting the a7rII and if it wasn't for GAS I would still be shooting it. But I was tempted by the X-Pro 2 and the wife said something had to go. So I did the swap of the a7rII for the X-Pro 2. As much as I liked the Fuji for all the advancements, the smaller finder but more so the fixed screen proved to be the deal breaker. I was about to cut my losses and go back to the a7rII but the wife surprised me with the E-M1 and 12-40 package as a gift from her trip overseas.

To be honest the sensor doesn't really bother me as much. A7rII IQ is leaps and bounds better. Anyone who says that m4/3 is comparable is joking themselves. I'm a huge m4/3 fanboy and I'll say that it's not even close. But it's good enough for me. I don't shoot professionally and cause of my two kids now I don't even have time to shoot the small amount of gigs I did before. But the E-M1 seems more complete to me. Ergonomics it's great, every dial, every switch, the use of a touch screen, etc. simple stuff like the EVF sensor disabling when the screen it pulled out is small things that just make sense. Having a drive mode, AF mode, bracketing, all on a button is great. Shooting in M and having aperture and shutter on dials and a simple switch down and then those dials controlling ISO and WB, again genius.

I don't print much. I don't crop much. Heck because of my kids I haven't edited a single files in 2.5 years. I view my files on my phone and iPad. I share on social media. If my needs were different I might not be as satisfied. But for me the E-M1, the 12-40 and a couple of tiny primes do it for me. If I was still using the a7rII I would be trying to budget for the 85 Batis, the 25 Batis, the 24-70 GM, the 70-300, etc. then I add up the costs and its $6,000+ and that's just the beginning. Then I'd want the 16-35, the 35 1.4, the 90 macro, etc. I have the 40-150 on my wish list which my wife is getting me for Father's Day, I'll keep an eye out for a 25 1.2 and maybe the e-M1 mark II but for now I'm set.


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May 05, 2016 17:12 |  #17276

Well, I must say first impressions of the Sigma SWII 24/2.8 are pretty good for what I want it for & for the £38 it cost me :)

Size, weight, FD mount, centre sharpness wide open is more than enough & the MFD is absolutely tiny!! Corners don't appear to be super sharp but I can live with that I think - considering the other lenses I use ie CV40 ;) But this was just a few local handheld snapshots rather than 'testing'


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May 05, 2016 17:53 |  #17277

TMaG82 wrote in post #17997076 (external link)
The E-M1 is my favorite camera I've used so far, so much so that I've gone back to it. I enjoyed shooting the a7rII and if it wasn't for GAS I would still be shooting it. But I was tempted by the X-Pro 2 and the wife said something had to go. So I did the swap of the a7rII for the X-Pro 2. As much as I liked the Fuji for all the advancements, the smaller finder but more so the fixed screen proved to be the deal breaker. I was about to cut my losses and go back to the a7rII but the wife surprised me with the E-M1 and 12-40 package as a gift from her trip overseas.

To be honest the sensor doesn't really bother me as much. A7rII IQ is leaps and bounds better. Anyone who says that m4/3 is comparable is joking themselves. I'm a huge m4/3 fanboy and I'll say that it's not even close. But it's good enough for me. I don't shoot professionally and cause of my two kids now I don't even have time to shoot the small amount of gigs I did before. But the E-M1 seems more complete to me. Ergonomics it's great, every dial, every switch, the use of a touch screen, etc. simple stuff like the EVF sensor disabling when the screen it pulled out is small things that just make sense. Having a drive mode, AF mode, bracketing, all on a button is great. Shooting in M and having aperture and shutter on dials and a simple switch down and then those dials controlling ISO and WB, again genius.

I don't print much. I don't crop much. Heck because of my kids I haven't edited a single files in 2.5 years. I view my files on my phone and iPad. I share on social media. If my needs were different I might not be as satisfied. But for me the E-M1, the 12-40 and a couple of tiny primes do it for me. If I was still using the a7rII I would be trying to budget for the 85 Batis, the 25 Batis, the 24-70 GM, the 70-300, etc. then I add up the costs and its $6,000+ and that's just the beginning. Then I'd want the 16-35, the 35 1.4, the 90 macro, etc. I have the 40-150 on my wish list which my wife is getting me for Father's Day, I'll keep an eye out for a 25 1.2 and maybe the e-M1 mark II but for now I'm set.

you've still got that gear lust  :p

kids are just a temporary excuse, the lust will creep up again, I've got 4 kids, and cant quite control my gear lust, however this year is much more calm than last year. Since I havent been shooting much, I've been focusing my photography efforts on social media, been tinkering with instagram a bit, and about to drop flickr..... It's been a reinvigorating experience. It's like in one day there, I have as much interaction as I do with flickr in a whole year :-P


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May 05, 2016 18:52 |  #17278

UPS tracking confirms arrival of FE 70-300mm tomorrow.
I'll get something (anything) posted up Saturday or Sunday....crap weather, 7th day in a row now, so
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May 05, 2016 19:53 |  #17279

Charlie wrote in post #17997130 (external link)
you've still got that gear lust  :p

kids are just a temporary excuse, the lust will creep up again, I've got 4 kids, and cant quite control my gear lust, however this year is much more calm than last year. Since I havent been shooting much, I've been focusing my photography efforts on social media, been tinkering with instagram a bit, and about to drop flickr..... It's been a reinvigorating experience. It's like in one day there, I have as much interaction as I do with flickr in a whole year :-P

I'll always have gear lust. But nothing to combat that like daycare expenses, books, etc. Luckily I put enough money aside each paycheck as fun money. I'm sure that I'll be able to catch up and edit and shoot more recreationally in a few years. I had to turn away a half dozen or so informal portrait sessions and engagement because I didn't have time. With just my one daughter it was doable now with a 3 year old and now 10 month old, it's increasingly difficult.

Maybe by the time I can shoot, they'll be a a9 or something with all touch screen, dual card slots, speedier processor, etc, :lol:


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May 05, 2016 20:01 |  #17280

A nice clear night, is where A7S really earns its keep!

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