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Fabercula wrote in post #17991341
Sorry for bothering but I'd like to have an opinion about a lens.
I see you've got the 70-200 F2.8 with a 24-70; I own 24-120 and would like to buy the Sigma 70-200 F2.8, it has a good price. In your opinion, is it worth the money or would I use just a little?
I thought I could use it, e.g., for my son's shows at school; low light and so F2.8 is ok, distance and so the zoom 70-200 comes in handy.
Am I right?
Thanks in advance,
Fabrizio

Never a bother! The answer becomes about economics first. Can you afford a lens in your budget that might see limited use based on what you do. I love my 70-200 2.8 (currently the sharpest lens I own and spot on AF), for me this is a hobby and I make no money from it (an occasional couple of dollars here but I am not advertising as a business because my life is too hectic)... I decided the cost of the lens (I bought for 785 used I think) was worth the cost of paying a pro for recital pictures over a period of a few years... and our dance studio doesn't have a pro at our dance recitals so was a no brainer. I use it pretty much only for those indoor times and occasionally on the softball field where the focal length isn't too bad to use because the field is smaller.

As you already know the 2.8 is perfect for low light and the 70-200 now allows me to go wide enough when I need to get a full stage shot or a large group shot and zooms close enough that I can get fairly detailed shots. And even on some, I can still do a heavy crop and get nice results - not award winning but I am happy with the results and other dancers love them compared to their phone or point and shoot results. The only drawback is that now when I am taking the pictures I tend to be in the back of the theatre in order to get a good angle and be able to use the full focal range well.

So the economics only you can answer, the rest is a big fat YES!!!

Mr. Werds, since you own both the d750 and d7200 how do you compare the white balance of the jpg's of the 2 cameras. I find, when handling the 7200 in the store, that the WB to be much better "out of the box" than the d750.

russ49 wrote in post #17991613
Mr. Werds, since you own both the d750 and d7200 how do you compare the white balance of the jpg's of the 2 cameras. I find, when handling the 7200 in the store, that the WB to be much better "out of the box" than the d750.

Well that is a thing that I find odd about the two. When using the D7200 outdoors I like the white balance MUCH more, but whenever the light becomes challenging or you have an odd mixture of lighting the D750 nails the white balance much better if sometimes slightly warm by 100 to 300 (on the 1000k scale). I think the reason for that is that the D750 has a slightly upgraded system for WB that when you have a wilder array of challenging colors it gets closer to correct, sometimes it is still out to left field wrong but more often than not I am impressed by how close large batches of shots are... The D7200 on the other hand gets more spot on in outdoors stuff that I have done and when the lighting isn't challenging.

But that is just my personal preference since I know that there is no one "correct" balance and even then my taste on correct white balance continues to change over time!

werds wrote in post #17991769
Well that is a thing that I find odd about the two. When using the D7200 outdoors I like the white balance MUCH more, but whenever the light becomes challenging or you have an odd mixture of lighting the D750 nails the white balance much better if sometimes slightly warm by 100 to 300 (on the 1000k scale). I think the reason for that is that the D750 has a slightly upgraded system for WB that when you have a wilder array of challenging colors it gets closer to correct, sometimes it is still out to left field wrong but more often than not I am impressed by how close large batches of shots are... The D7200 on the other hand gets more spot on in outdoors stuff that I have done and when the lighting isn't challenging.

But that is just my personal preference since I know that there is no one "correct" balance and even then my taste on correct white balance continues to change over time!

I would expect them to be slightly different because from what I've read the sensor in the D750 is a Sony and the sensor in the d7200 is a Toshiba, and there is no low pass filter in the D7200 (possibly giving less tint and a bit brighter image).

Happy Puppy

Great shot!

Although I hate doing weird format crops I prefer doing this to remove the clutter from wide angle shots on my zoom. In the first picture that is my daughter on the far left during one of her two dance routines at a recent arts festival performance.

And these two were from another pair of dances, I just loved the look of each of these particular shots in black and white Oddly enough when I had processed them in color I instantly told myself I needed to process them in black and white...

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werds wrote in post #17998181
Although I hate doing weird format crops I prefer doing this to remove the clutter from wide angle shots on my zoom. In the first picture that is my daughter on the far left during one of her two dance routines at a recent arts festival performance.

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Non-standard format it might be but that first one is a great shot

werds wrote in post #17991769
Well that is a thing that I find odd about the two. When using the D7200 outdoors I like the white balance MUCH more, but whenever the light becomes challenging or you have an odd mixture of lighting the D750 nails the white balance much better if sometimes slightly warm by 100 to 300 (on the 1000k scale). I think the reason for that is that the D750 has a slightly upgraded system for WB that when you have a wilder array of challenging colors it gets closer to correct, sometimes it is still out to left field wrong but more often than not I am impressed by how close large batches of shots are... The D7200 on the other hand gets more spot on in outdoors stuff that I have done and when the lighting isn't challenging.

But that is just my personal preference since I know that there is no one "correct" balance and even then my taste on correct white balance continues to change over time!

Following up on my post - apparently I was wrong - it looks like sometimes it is 1k warmer! Here are two example shots. Note I took both my cameras to a performance my daughter's dance company was putting on. I used my D750 and had someone else shooting the D7200 - both cameras were set to auto white balance, obviously Tamron and Sigma lenses will render differently and because it is FF vs crop there is a minor difference - but this is specific to the question of white balance.

I exported from lightroom with no major tweaks (I have a base preset that Lightroom applies but it does not touch white balance, merely some minor color tweaks to make it look close to Camera Normal profile with lens correction and chromatic aberration removal).

As you notice the D7200 shoots cooler than the D750 and when I compared all the shots in the series this remained the same. Obviously there are some uncontrolled variables here due to us both being at different angles, different body lens combo and slightly different settings but overall I think this shows what I mean about how one being cooler the other being warmer - kind of personal preference. I chose these two because they were the most closely timed shots with similar angles to display the white balance difference.

Interesting results

werds wrote in post #18013718
Following up on my post - apparently I was wrong - it looks like sometimes it is 1k warmer! Here are two example shots. Note I took both my cameras to a performance my daughter's dance company was putting on. I used my D750 and had someone else shooting the D7200 - both cameras were set to auto white balance, obviously Tamron and Sigma lenses will render differently and because it is FF vs crop there is a minor difference - but this is specific to the question of white balance.

I exported from lightroom with no major tweaks (I have a base preset that Lightroom applies but it does not touch white balance, merely some minor color tweaks to make it look close to Camera Normal profile with lens correction and chromatic aberration removal).

As you notice the D7200 shoots cooler than the D750 and when I compared all the shots in the series this remained the same. Obviously there are some uncontrolled variables here due to us both being at different angles, different body lens combo and slightly different settings but overall I think this shows what I mean about how one being cooler the other being warmer - kind of personal preference. I chose these two because they were the most closely timed shots with similar angles to display the white balance difference.

Just wondering the reason for auto WB.

ptcanon3ti wrote in post #18013793
Just wondering the reason for auto WB.

Shooting in RAW for one, so setting the correct white balance in post isn't a biggie. For two, on the other side of the lens I had my 3-year-old that I was wrangling as well as assisting my wife with some dance outfits and makeup kits while the older child was doing her routines. So no real time to play around with my settings other than basic stuff although I did do a quick test and when set to cloudy it was way too warm for my liking and didn't have time to fiddle further before the performance went on (and they did the routines back to back with little transition time).

As an added note, my white balance preference is usually just slightly warmer than the D7200 outputs so usually correcting the WB in LR is fairly easy as far as batches go (thank goodness for Sync!) ....I will add that I am a rank amateur and learning on the fly with very small time windows to devote to what I learn and love, one thing I did get out of this is that if I ever do choose to take pictures with two different model bodies I will definitely be setting the white balance to one base across both that way I can remove the need to tweak too much on variation.

In this case I was sticking to what I know and at the same time when I was out there I remembered this post and thought it would be a cool little test of the AWB since usually I am using only one or the other, never both at the same time (PS my wife just weighed in over my shoulder and she prefers the AWB on the D750 more lol )