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May 21, 2016 10:05 |  #11777

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Two wonderful shots!

I have the same gear and can't get close to that quality with sooc JPEGs. Will assume you were shooting raw. Sooo, some questions if you don't mind:

1: distance to subjects, were you close or are they heavy crops
2: did you require extensive pp or we're things pretty good
3: focus mode, AI servo or one shot

Don't want to push this to the point that my query should be in the 'focus discussion' thread but I haven't been able to get the same camera/lens combo to play nice together since I got the camera. Therefore people with successful results catch my attention. Sort of a 'what am I doing wrong' type of thing.

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Yes I'm shooting Raw. I'll give you my camera settings and maybe that will help you.

Raw, Manual, For static subjects that will sit still for more than a second I use one shot single point focus. I have that programed into the * back button, The AF-ON button I have programed to use AI servo and expansion point (4) for moving or BIF shots. I find it easy to just slide my thumb over for that.

As far as crops the Verry is really not cropped at all just a little for composition. The RWBB is cropped a little more but not a big crop. PP was what I usually do , some sharpening, some WB adjustment, Some white and black, shadow tweaking. The Veery was at ISO 1250 so I did a little noise reduction.


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May 21, 2016 11:33 |  #11778

I like to use one shot as well for stills. I also programmed the AF-ON button so AI Servo activates. It would have been nice if Canon had added Drive Mode to the "detail set". I leave it on High Speed Continuos and when I use the shutter for stills I get a few extra frames which is just a minor inconvenience.

I leave it on High Speed Continuous for this reason. I like to have an emergency BIF set that is ready to go. I set the * button so AI Servo, 65 point zone and Case 6 activate.

The thing about the 7D2 sensor is tightly packed and is not forgiving with underexposure and slight movement often referred to as micro blur. So practising to be steady, using IS, appropriate shutter speeds and using your lenses sharpest aperture all makes a difference.

While post processing are you sharpening for both capture and output? i don't always get this but it can be done.You know what Lt. Aldo Raine says in Inglorious Basterds .

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May 21, 2016 11:42 as a reply to  @ digital paradise's post |  #11779

Yes always high speed continuous in both modes for me as well. Like you I'll take the few extra shots but I am getting good a just squeezing off a single shot. :) I also Microfocused the lens as well, seemed to make a difference. Those shots were also handheld.

Also with the Tamron I have the cameras DOF preview button set to engage IS or VR or whatever Tamron is calling it. I don't use the IS,VR for BIF since I'll use a high SS, seems to work better for sharper images.


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May 21, 2016 11:57 |  #11781

Grizz wrote in post #18014235 (external link)
Yes always high speed continuous in both modes for me as well. Like you I'll take the few extra shots but I am getting good a just squeezing off a single shot. :) I also Microfocused the lens as well, seemed to make a difference. Those shots were also handheld.

Also with the Tamron I have the cameras DOF preview button set to engage IS or VR or whatever Tamron is calling it. I don't use the IS,VR for BIF since I'll use a high SS, seems to work better for sharper images.

The slower the lens the less noticeable MFA adjustments will be. Rudy Winston says you may not see any difference of up to 5 moves. My 100 - 400 II only needed +3 at 400mm so I don't really know for sure. It needed a lot when I put the 1.4 III on.

As for that IS thing everyone says it is better without it. I always use it but will try without it this summer.


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May 21, 2016 12:53 |  #11783

digital paradise wrote in post #18014247 (external link)
The slower the lens the less noticeable MFA adjustments will be. Rudy Winston says you may not see any difference of up to 5 moves. My 100 - 400 II only needed +3 at 400mm so I don't really know for sure. It needed a lot when I put the 1.4 III on.

As for that IS thing everyone says it is better without it. I always use it but will try without it this summer.

On the Tammy I had to MF @ +7 on the long end. I'm pretty sure your 100-400 II's Panning IS mode is a lot better then the Tammy, Then again I'm sure everything is better! lol There is a firmware update to address this but I did not send it back for that update. Seems to work well enough if I can keep the SS high enough and track smoothly. The more I do it the better I get. :)


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May 21, 2016 13:57 |  #11784

Grizz wrote in post #18014235 (external link)
Yes always high speed continuous in both modes for me as well. Like you I'll take the few extra shots but I am getting good a just squeezing off a single shot. :) I also Microfocused the lens as well, seemed to make a difference. Those shots were also handheld.

Also with the Tamron I have the cameras DOF preview button set to engage IS or VR or whatever Tamron is calling it. I don't use the IS,VR for BIF since I'll use a high SS, seems to work better for sharper images.

Craig how do you set your DOF preview button for VR to engage. I want to set up mine also. When you set this up do you leave the VR in off position?

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May 21, 2016 14:12 as a reply to  @ Peter2516's post |  #11785

Hi Peter,

Leave it ON on the lens. Go into the custom controls settings in the camera menu and then select the DOF button (4th one down in the left column) Select it and then scroll over to the IS start option and set it. The DOF button will now start VR when depressed.

You have to train your finger to depress the DOF button when you want VR engaged but with a little practice it becomes second nature. :)


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May 21, 2016 14:14 |  #11786

Grizz wrote in post #18014291 (external link)
On the Tammy I had to MF @ +7 on the long end. I'm pretty sure your 100-400 II's Panning IS mode is a lot better then the Tammy, Then again I'm sure everything is better! lol There is a firmware update to address this but I did not send it back for that update. Seems to work well enough if I can keep the SS high enough and track smoothly. The more I do it the better I get. :)

From what I understand, the Tammy doesn't have a panning mode, the update just turns off IS when it senses panning action. I haven't sent mine in either and IS is about dead on mine. I just keep SS as high as I can.


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May 21, 2016 14:18 |  #11787

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From what I understand, the Tammy doesn't have a panning mode, the update just turns off IS when it senses panning action. I haven't sent mine in either and IS is about dead on mine. I just keep SS as high as I can.

Ah Ok, I wasn't sure what the update did, good to know thanks. The way I have it set up seems to works well for me I only have IS/VR when I want to engage it.


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May 21, 2016 17:25 |  #11789

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Hi Peter,

Leave it ON on the lens. Go into the custom controls settings in the camera menu and then select the DOF button (4th one down in the left column) Select it and then scroll over to the IS start option and set it. The DOF button will now start VR when depressed.

You have to train your finger to depress the DOF button when you want VR engaged but with a little practice it becomes second nature. :)

Very cool I will set it like that. Thanks Craig I appreciate it.

As for the latest firmware update with Tamron it is for panning and turning the IS/VR in ON position while panning.


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