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Fine art nude vs Pornography

 
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May 31, 2016 09:56 |  #16
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May 31, 2016 10:40 |  #17

nathancarter wrote in post #18024834 (external link)
I kinda like "illicit" in this context. :)

Yeah, I quite understood - that's why the writers got their vocabulary mixed up  :p


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Dec 07, 2016 14:12 |  #18

It's important to reiterate that art and porn are not mutually exclusive. It's possible for creative works to qualify as both. As for deconstructing and comparing them, try this: http://www.academia.ed​u …ne_Art_versus_P​ornography (external link)


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Dec 07, 2016 15:52 |  #19

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Pornography is in the eye of the beholder; but so is art. In my view nudity in itself is not pornographic per se.

It is all about quality, taste and in some extent intent.

Is Michelagelo's David porn? Are Boticelli's paintings porn? If not why not?

Pornography and art are not mutually exclusive. You may argue that Henry Miller's books are pornographic, but they are also considered works of literature.

What you find on porn sites is almost all not art, but then most of the stuff some photographers label as fine art isn't either.

So?


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Jul 02, 2017 08:58 |  #20

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Pardon me, but researchers have found that there is a difference. I don't make these things up.

What did they research? (I'm a psych student)

Was it this? https://www.ncbi.nlm.n​ih.gov/pmc/articles/PM​C2739403/ (external link)
Found this too: http://www.nature.com …al/v7/n4/full/n​n1208.html (external link)


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icor1031 wrote in post #18392429 (external link)
What did they research? (I'm a psych student)

Was it this? https://www.ncbi.nlm.n​ih.gov/pmc/articles/PM​C2739403/ (external link)
Found this too: http://www.nature.com …al/v7/n4/full/n​n1208.html (external link)

From memory only: The article at your first link basically covers the territory. (Straight) men are more aroused by the mere sight of women's bodies than (straight) women are by the sight of men's. Women respond more to emotional cues. Steven Pinker wrote that Playgirl magazine, an analogue of Playboy ostensibly intended for a female audience, in reality appealed mostly to gay males. Pinker stated an evolutionary rationale for the sexes' different responses to nudity in How the Mind Works.


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Copidosoma wrote in post #18022957 (external link)
FWIW

I'd argue that all porn is art and almost anything can be porn (show some people a picture of a foot and they get turned on).

The distinction has vastly more to do with how the person viewing it is interpreting it (and/or being affected by it) than it has to do with the material itself. Which is why it is so hard to say, "this is pornographic but this isn't". Ultimately the distiction is sort of a value judgment and everyone has their own point at which something crosses the line. Granted, some things are further along the spectrum either way.

I'mma have to agree

for instance.. look back on 'porn' of the 70's... it's almost quaint today - back then it was shocking




  
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