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Jun 01, 2016 09:06 |  #18376

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Having found the 'On' switch on my new A7Rii, I thought I'd try a couple of low-light 'Vermeer-type' images.

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Man, can we have a super-like button and/or a way to grade our likes for each image. Of course, I'd superlike both of these.


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Jun 01, 2016 09:24 as a reply to  @ post 18025529 |  #18377

Old habits die hard. I did a shoot of a birthday party as a favor. Like in olden days, instead of a couple of cameras and two zooms, I carried four cameras with a distinct bit of glass on each. By the end of the night I was forgetting which camera was set for what light and whether I had the video switched on or set for stills. I am too old for complications like that :)

I plan on a two camera, five lens, trip in November to Paris, so part of the usual bulk for wildlife won't be necessary. Everything will fit in my vest pockets. No tripod, no monopod. Just an umbrella with multiple capabilities (cane, weather protection and battering ram).

But I can't see how we will ever get away from carrying a big lens when going for wildlife.


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Jun 01, 2016 09:45 |  #18378

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Old habits die hard. I did a shoot of a birthday party as a favor. Like in olden days, instead of a couple of cameras and two zooms, I carried four cameras with a distinct bit of glass on each. By the end of the night I was forgetting which camera was set for what light and whether I had the video switched on or set for stills. I am too old for complications like that :)

I plan on a two camera, five lens, trip in November to Paris, so part of the usual bulk for wildlife won't be necessary. Everything will fit in my vest pockets. No tripod, no monopod. Just an umbrella with multiple capabilities (cane, weather protection and battering ram).

But I can't see how we will ever get away from carrying a big lens when going for wildlife.

I was in paris about 10 times within the last 10 months and have always taken other combinations with me. What i found to be working best there, was the CV15 and the Leica 50. everything else i took was simply not suiting the city. I even went once with only the 50 summilux and came home with more keepers than on all other trips. Im really thinking that for city trips, i will now only take these two lenses with me with the A7RII. Its just so relieving to walk around with two small primes all day long. And by starting to restrict to just one or two lenses you start viewing your environment in those points of view which may or may not lead to much more interesting pictures. It did, at least for me


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Jun 01, 2016 10:03 |  #18379

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I was in paris about 10 times within the last 10 months and have always taken other combinations with me. What i found to be working best there, was the CV15 and the Leica 50. everything else i took was simply not suiting the city. I even went once with only the 50 summilux and came home with more keepers than on all other trips. Im really thinking that for city trips, i will now only take these two lenses with me with the A7RII. Its just so relieving to walk around with two small primes all day long. And by starting to restrict to just one or two lenses you start viewing your environment in those points of view which may or may not lead to much more interesting pictures. It did, at least for me

Wow, just those two. My plan was to bring the M240 with CV 21mm, 35mm, 50mm and Leica 90mm, plus the Sony a7S and Sony 24-240mm as backup/lens alternate, since the Sony can use the other lenses via adapters.

So, the 15mm worked well? Do you have a link for those images? I do have both a CV 12mm f5.6 and ZM 15mm f2.8. I really hadn't thought of ultrawide cityscapes, but found that 12mm worked very nicely in Spain in 2014.


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Jun 01, 2016 10:14 |  #18380

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Wow, just those two. My plan was to bring the M240 with CV 21mm, 35mm, 50mm and Leica 90mm, plus the Sony a7S and Sony 24-240mm as backup/lens alternate, since the Sony can use the other lenses via adapters.

So, the 15mm worked well? Do you have a link for those images? I do have both a CV 12mm f5.6 and ZM 15mm f2.8. I really hadn't thought of ultrawide cityscapes, but found that 12mm worked very nicely in Spain in 2014.

Remember that black and white series of la defence that you can see in my gallery? Those were all shot with the CV15. I must say, really depends on what youre shooting but i think 5 lenses is a bit overkill. I think the CV12 might also work instead of the CV15. You definitely want to bring an ultrawide for all the small and charming alleys. Tbh i never felt the need for anything between 15 and 50mm. Maybe at some occassions i felt like the FE28 would have been a good lens to have with me for interior portraits where 50 is too long and 15 not suited because of distortion. But other than that... The only time id think of using something longer than 50mm would be for compressed shots of champs elysees and the arc de triompe or if you do people street candids...

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Jun 01, 2016 10:34 |  #18381

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Here you go. Give this one a try.

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Jun 01, 2016 10:45 |  #18382

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Remember that black and white series of la defence that you can see in my gallery? Those were all shot with the CV15. I must say, really depends on what youre shooting but i think 5 lenses is a bit overkill. I think the CV12 might also work instead of the CV15. You definitely want to bring an ultrawide for all the small and charming alleys. Tbh i never felt the need for anything between 15 and 50mm. Maybe at some occassions i felt like the FE28 would have been a good lens to have with me for interior portraits where 50 is too long and 15 not suited because of distortion. But other than that... The only time id think of using something longer than 50mm would be for compressed shots of champs elysees and the arc de triompe or if you do people street candids...

Holy Cow!
You have a good point.
Probably because the Summarit 90mm is new and I have not played with it enough, I put it on the list. It does put you just far enough away to not catch the attention of people in group interactions.
I'd have to swallow hard to cut down to two lenses, especially when I think of the qualities of the CV 35mm Nokton.

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Jun 01, 2016 11:05 |  #18383

Nice first 2 efforts Gene and Eddie.

You guys managed to pull out more contrast and color from those files than I did. I was really struggling with that one last night to get any kind of contrast without ruining the pier into a blob of darkness.

Eddie, would appreciate if you shared what you did, like Gene did, so I can learn from it :)


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Jun 01, 2016 11:09 |  #18384

Speaking of too many lenses...I packed my bag for Disney y'day.

RX1RII, a7rII, Batis 25, 85 GM, nissin i40. Throwing the Loxia 21 in there too...since its so small. Stuffed it all into a peak design everyday messenger with my macbook, ipad, and tripod. Probably overkill. I probably only need the RX1....oh well.


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Jun 01, 2016 11:18 |  #18385

Here's another take. Quick Lightroom-only tweaks, no filters, mostly just adjustment brushes. Might be "a bit much". I ran this one through before moving on in the thread to see the other 2 takes on the pic (didn't want them to influence me - figured there would be many more by now). The great thing about shots like this though, is that there's really no "wrong way" to process it. Just different directions you could go.


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Jun 01, 2016 11:19 |  #18386

OK, here is my effort. While I also wish to coax out more overall contrast from the scene, my concept is to lead the eye through the image to the end of the pier, which is my focal point. To do this I wanted more brightness, saturation, and clarity on the right side of the image and then darkening to the right. This, I think, helps an otherwise flat looking scene ("flat" in regards to perspective converging lines) have a more dynamic tonal movement.

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Jun 01, 2016 11:31 |  #18387

Those edits are looking very nice guys. I thought this blog post by Erin would be useful for us all. David touched on some aspects of what Erin writes about: creating mood, directing the viewer through the image, etc.

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Jun 01, 2016 11:42 |  #18388

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Nice first 2 efforts Gene and Eddie.

You guys managed to pull out more contrast and color from those files than I did. I was really struggling with that one last night to get any kind of contrast without ruining the pier into a blob of darkness.

Eddie, would appreciate if you shared what you did, like Gene did, so I can learn from it :)

I imported into lightroom initially, changed the aspect to 16x10 and then made the changes shown below -



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After that I added a graduated filter to the sky and increased the clarity to the clouds only and then added a local brush adjustment to the white part of the water and increased the clarity. I then exported to photoshop and ran it through colour efex pro using the pro contrast filter. My settings were 0% on the top slider 13% on the middle and 29% on the bottom.

Finally I ran my photoshop action that resizes to 1280 wide and adds the black borders. The last step in the process was to run an unsharp mask (100%, 0.3 radius, 0 threshold)

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Jun 01, 2016 11:56 |  #18389

Interesting that you use the LR camera calibration panel. I almost never use that. I find the Sony A7RII options to be overly saturated and with too much yellow, generally, so I tend to start with the Adobe Standard and go from there.
Anyone else use these?


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Jun 01, 2016 12:00 |  #18390

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Man, can we have a super-like button and/or a way to grade our likes for each image. Of course, I'd superlike both of these.

Thank you very much, advaitin! I really do appreciate that.


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