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Jun 15, 2016 21:58 as a reply to  @ post 18040205 |  #46

no I was done at that point for the day. I didn't see the damage until we were on shore. but I did use the lens on the rest of my vacation. when we went out shooting orcas a few days later I didn't take that lens because I didn't have another 82mm UV with me and it wasn't a focal range I wanted anyway.


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Jun 15, 2016 22:08 |  #47

ed rader wrote in post #18040703 (external link)
my bag is domke f1-x not real padded but spacious. you don't shoot anything but wildlife by your own admission so how much gear do you carry. it's nice to have the luxuries but it's not always possible for me and I accept that damage will occur. so yeah were all different

Ed,

Did you replace the original inserts with the longer but narrow three section one? I did and can now lay my 1D IV with the 100-400ii attached on its side and put a couple other lenses in the insert. I really like my Domke F1-X since setting it up that way.

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Jun 15, 2016 22:15 as a reply to  @ post 18040218 |  #48

yep  :p

noob: "which protective filter should I use on my lens"
AFJ "the only protective filter you need is the lens hood"

noob: "are tiffen filters any good?"
AFJ: "all filters are evil. the only filter you need is the lens hood"

noob: "my images are soft"
AFJ: if you're using a UV take it off NOW! "the only filter you need is the lens hood"

Noob: "will this scratch effect IQ?'
AFJ: "scratches will not affect IQ. if you use the lens hood your lens will never get scratched"


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Jun 15, 2016 22:21 as a reply to  @ Phoenixkh's post |  #49

I used that configuration in Africa when we were strictly limited on what we could carry. I had the bag set up so I could carry my 1d3 with 100-400 attached. the only other lenses I had with me were 16-35l II and 50 1.4. I also had the 30d as a back up. and all that stuff fit well.

sometimes I think i'd like a bigger bag but really the f1-X fully loaded is heavy enough!


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Jun 15, 2016 22:24 |  #50

ed rader wrote in post #18040731 (external link)
I used that configuration in Africa when we were strictly limited on what we could carry. I had the bag set up so I could carry my 1d3 with 100-400 attached. the only other lenses I had with me were 16-35l II and 50 1.4. I also had the 30d as a back up. and all that stuff fit well.

sometimes I think i'd like a bigger bag but really the f1-X fully loaded is heavy enough!

I think about getting an F-Stop backpack sometimes... and I might one of these days... but the Domke is excellent.


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Jun 15, 2016 22:46 |  #51

I have the Domke F2 and I swear, it's a **** getting DSLR sized gear in it. I dont know how many times that stupid metal buckle has slapped onto the front filter, super annoying. The redeeming value of the bag is that it's super spacious and minimal padding, I really hate heavily padded bags, hence think tank/domke, I like those types.


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Jun 15, 2016 22:50 |  #52

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I have the Domke F2 and I swear, it's a **** getting DSLR sized gear in it. I dont know how many times that stupid metal buckle has slapped onto the front filter, super annoying. The redeeming value of the bag is that it's super spacious and minimal padding, I really hate heavily padded bags, hence think tank/domke, I like those types.

The Domke F2 was my first Domke bag..... I'm so glad I bought it used for a good price. I never use it.... it never did work for a gripped DLSR. I really do love my F1-X though. I should sell the F2 but I can't ever seem to get around to it.


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Jun 15, 2016 22:57 as a reply to  @ Charlie's post |  #53

I have the f2 also :-P. and a couple of other domke bags. I also use a domke bag for my tripod. for backpacks I really like lowepro. I took one of the square think tank backpacks to Alaska snd while it was spacious it was super uncomfortable. it was the size that was carry on compliant on even the puddle jumpers. I now have a lowepro 400 flipside that I use when I travel or hike and its a much better bag, imo, and carries a lot of stuff and will fit on any plane. I normally wear it on the plane and stash my f2 or f1-x under the seat.

the really great thing about the flipside and other lowepro bags is you can get them dirt cheap from ebay (china). I paid like $50 delivered for the flipside and I have since bought a couple for gifts.


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Jun 16, 2016 02:30 |  #54

GregDunn wrote in post #18040401 (external link)
I always put any lens in a padded pocket in my bag - which was once kicked over by someone while I was taking the camera out, causing my 17-55 to fly 3 feet to the concrete. The filter glass was totally destroyed and the rim bent to the extent that I had to remove it with a pair of small pliers to avoid damaging the lens filter threads. The replacement filter threaded on with no problem. Both filters were high end Hoya HMC units, so they weren't cheap junk.

That lens has worked fine to this very day (I did send it in for calibration and cleaning recently, because it's getting on in years). You all go ahead and do what you wish with your lenses; I'm perfectly satisfied with the choice I made. :lol:

I don't understand why more folks don't have this attitude. None of my lenses have protective filters. I don't shoot in the rain, or go rock climbing with a camera. My SLRs never go on vacation; that is the G15's job. I am a fair-weather shooter. Using hoods and no filters works for me. Please, feel free to do whatever works for you. Please allow me the same discretion. This is an ongoing debate because there is no ONE RIGHT ANSWER.




  
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Jun 16, 2016 06:45 |  #55

ed rader wrote in post #18040699 (external link)
yes. that's why I had to replace the front element on the last 24-70LII the coatings got destroyed by cleaning. it was so bad and had a spidery appearance and I thought it might be fungus but it was coating damage. really puzzled me because I've never had that problem with any lens before. and I was getting weird flaring under some conditions.

in short, I think the coatings are much softer than the AFJ (anti filter jihadis) and the cubicle photographers (talk a good one from work but don't really shoot) would have me believe.

ed rader wrote in post #18040700 (external link)
you can believe what you want. I've made my case. we differ on many things anyway and you appear to have more time to talk then I do.

wow, talk about jihadi. Then you talk about replacing a front element due to cleaning? doesn't exactly fit your argument. Oh and by the way, you were the one to start the thread supporting your pro-protection beliefs, pretty sure you know where it was going.

fwiw, I do own a couple of "protection" filters but rarely use them. So I am not stuck on either side of this argument, i'm just unconvinced that this situation proves the usefulness of protective filters.

Honest question, were you using a lens cap or just throwing the lens (with filter) back in the bag?


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Jun 16, 2016 06:57 |  #56

ed rader wrote in post #18040772 (external link)
I have the f2 also :-P. and a couple of other domke bags. I also use a domke bag for my tripod. for backpacks I really like lowepro. I took one of the square think tank backpacks to Alaska snd while it was spacious it was super uncomfortable. it was the size that was carry on compliant on even the puddle jumpers. I now have a lowepro 400 flipside that I use when I travel or hike and its a much better bag, imo, and carries a lot of stuff and will fit on any plane. I normally wear it on the plane and stash my f2 or f1-x under the seat.

the really great thing about the flipside and other lowepro bags is you can get them dirt cheap from ebay (china). I paid like $50 delivered for the flipside and I have since bought a couple for gifts.

The Lowepro Flipside 400AW is my main travel backpack, too. It's spacious, yet fits under an airline seat if necessary. I can fit a 7D2, 5D3, 16-35 f/4 IS, 24-105L, 100-400L II, EOS M + 22mm pancake, plus accessories in it. I also have a smaller Flipside 300 if I plan on traveling lighter.


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Jun 16, 2016 09:42 as a reply to  @ ed rader's post |  #57

Some anti filter folks may not be aware that some Canon L lenses require a filter to be weather sealed.

Oh, wait, just add a lens hood and forget it !:lol:


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Jun 16, 2016 14:54 |  #58

Forget filters!
To this day Dawn Wells looks great!!!!!!!
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Jun 16, 2016 15:46 |  #59

ebiggs wrote in post #18041140 (external link)
Some anti filter folks may not be aware that some Canon L lenses require a filter to be weather sealed.

Oh, wait, just add a lens hood and forget it !:lol:

My hoods protect me from dog noses and kid fingerprints and flare. A filter will protect me from nothing. I don't shoot in crappy environments. I've been using SLRs since 1976. I haven't damaged a front element yet.




  
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Jun 17, 2016 19:44 |  #60

ed rader wrote in post #18040703 (external link)
my bag is domke f1-x not real padded but spacious. you don't shoot anything but wildlife by your own admission so how much gear do you carry.

On some outings it can be quite a bit of gear. In fact, on more and more of my shoots I find myself packing more lenses than I used to......perhaps because I think that my "vision" has expanded, and I now see potential images that I didn't used to see. And often these "additional images" that I want to capture require much different focal lengths than the "typical shot" would call for.

So, most often I have with me both of my big lenses, the 300-800 Sigma and the Canon 400 f2.8. Then I have a few small lenses, each of which has it's own specific image-making purpose: the 24-105mm, the 50-200mm L, and the 100-400mm v2. And of course the 1.4x and the 2x tele-extenders.

I frequently take just one backup body with me, either the 5D or the 50D, depending on the needs of the specific shoot I am on. But sometimes I don't put a backup body in the pack, and rely solely on the 1D4.

Then I pack along the Gitzo and Wimberley (always) and sometimes also take an Enduro ballhead for times when I think it would be beneficial to have two different types of tripod heads. Oh, and I almost forgot, the homemade leg extensions for my tripod, and the stool with the adjustable legs so that I can get myself up high enough to see thru the viewfinder when the tripod is up on those homemade extensions (they're like stilts).

And then for concealment, the Ameristep Chair Blind and the 5' by 5' by 5' Doghouse Blind and a backpack with a bunch of camouflage material and a couple dozen spring clamps and some packages of safety pins and some Velcro tape and a couple of relatively light steel pipes (electrical conduit) so that I can build a makeshift blind to fit any occasion. And this time of year I also have a 12 foot tall aluminum orchardist's ladder (painted camouflage) strapped atop my car so that I can get up in the air to photograph from a higher point of view.

And of course the little gadgets like the allen wrench tool kit and the extra speed plates and the remote with the 16' long cable and the sensor cleaning kit and the on-camera LED light and the extra camera batteries and the battery chargers and the reflector panel and the bean bag and the topo maps and the hand saw and the pole saw and the hand pruners and the green folding chair and the nuts and bolts and washers and wrenches and whatever else I am not remembering at the moment.

All this stuff is in my car almost all of the time, except for the orchard ladder, which is cavity-nest specific, and therefore only on my car during May, June, and July.

So I guess that yeah, it is a lot of gear. Certain kinds of wildlife photography really do require a lot of different items. And what makes it hard is when much of it has to be carried into the wilderness when there aren't any roads or trails that go near where the wildlife is.

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