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Jun 21, 2016 23:49 |  #1

I worked with a family this weekend and delivered their images yesterday. Grandma asked me to do edits on the entire set. The first was simple and done. This one not so simple.

She wants to see this picture without the boy in the front holding his tie out. I did 2 sets of about 10 shots apiece. In the first set, he's not holding his tie, but his cousin on the end is yawning big time. Second set he's got the tie. I started with a layer mask to try and remove the yawning, but the alignment is way off so I can't mask him and the tie off either. I've tried copy/paste of the girls face, but the yawn is so big I can't find her face big enough or natural enough to use dn tried copy/paste on the section with the tie, but that's not working either.

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Jun 22, 2016 00:40 |  #2

It's possible to copy her face over and use free transform to make adjustments. My selection isn't great, but it's with a lowres copy.


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Jun 22, 2016 01:12 |  #3

Heya,

Face swap with a free transform as mentioned, good results above actually.

But, I have to say, I think the shot with the tie is great. I'd want to keep that one if it were my family. Having a formal with something that breaks the sterility is great. :)

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Jun 22, 2016 06:40 |  #4

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Face swap with a free transform as mentioned, good results above actually.

But, I have to say, I think the shot with the tie is great. I'd want to keep that one if it were my family. Having a formal with something that breaks the sterility is great. :)

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That's exactly what I told her.


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Jun 22, 2016 06:55 |  #5

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Merlin, What was your selection area? I can get her face over there but either the bottom of her chin doesn't get covered or the inside portion of the election is too big. I've tried using the transform tools, but they make things worse.

FWIW, PS isn't a strong point for me.


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Jun 22, 2016 07:03 |  #6

If you have Photoshop CC, you can use the new Face-Aware Liquify Tool and could probably even close her mouth in the yawn photo without much effort.


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Jun 22, 2016 07:11 |  #7

The shot with the tie is great.
Next time, I wouldn't put someone w a white shirt in front of someone else w a white shirt. lol. still a cool shot tho! :)

Tell grandma tough.
It's an easy fix though.

What annoys me is the fact that she wants edits on EVERY photo. Tells me she is not reasonable. Did you agree to edits before they booked you? If you do this, she may keep demanding small changes. I dealt with a grandma like this once. She wasn't even the paying client! It was a family of 21 and she didn't like some of the smiles (they were all smiling though) and wanted me to swap a bunch of faces to make the smiles better. I did and she kept asking for more. I finally told her no and that she would have to pay. Since then, all of my contracts state "ALL EDITS ARE FINAL - Any additional edits are at the discretion of the photographer and may incur an additional charge"


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Jun 22, 2016 07:54 |  #8

AnnieMacD wrote in post #18046739 (external link)
If you have Photoshop CC, you can use the new Face-Aware Liquify Tool and could probably even close her mouth in the yawn photo without much effort.

Tried that, looks weird but may give it another go.


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Jun 22, 2016 07:57 |  #9

BlakeC wrote in post #18046741 (external link)
The shot with the tie is great.
Next time, I wouldn't put someone w a white shirt in front of someone else w a white shirt. lol. still a cool shot tho! :)

Tell grandma tough.
It's an easy fix though.

What annoys me is the fact that she wants edits on EVERY photo. Tells me she is not reasonable. Did you agree to edits before they booked you? If you do this, she may keep demanding small changes. I dealt with a grandma like this once. She wasn't even the paying client! It was a family of 21 and she didn't like some of the smiles (they were all smiling though) and wanted me to swap a bunch of faces to make the smiles better. I did and she kept asking for more. I finally told her no and that she would have to pay. Since then, all of my contracts state "ALL EDITS ARE FINAL - Any additional edits are at the discretion of the photographer and may incur an additional charge"

She's asked me to take the best and make one images, so somewhat reasonable. The problem is that the younger kids either aren't looking, pulling ties, yawning, turned around, looking elsewhere, so on... A couple edits were easy, this one is really getting me. I've even gone as far to try and find another image with her face looking reasonable and bring it in. Nothing gives me an image where her face looks normal.


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Jun 22, 2016 08:32 |  #10

huntersdad wrote in post #18046775 (external link)
She's asked me to take the best and make one images, so somewhat reasonable. The problem is that the younger kids either aren't looking, pulling ties, yawning, turned around, looking elsewhere, so on... A couple edits were easy, this one is really getting me. I've even gone as far to try and find another image with her face looking reasonable and bring it in. Nothing gives me an image where her face looks normal.

that's just the hazards of photographing children. It also makes the photos better. If they want perfectly posed kids, maybe the should have raised the kids to be obedient emotionless drones....lol
I always warn them that they may end up with the kids doing odd things. It's just how kids are.


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Jun 22, 2016 10:14 as a reply to  @ huntersdad's post |  #11

I made a selection of just her head, using a mask to hide the rest.
I lowered the opacity a little to help see how to adjust the size and position so it looked a little better, then returned it to normal.




  
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Jun 22, 2016 13:55 |  #12

It's a piece of cake. Just line up the two faces on two layers and erase the face that you don't want.



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Jun 22, 2016 15:21 |  #13

My version. Lined up both layers. Layer with girl yawning on bottom, not yawning on top, masked top layer to reveal no yawn. Cropped slightly.


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