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Jun 19, 2016 14:38 |  #1

every now and again i get thinking ill pull out the Canon F-1n and FD lenses or my YashicaMat 124G and play around. the whole "physical" results i can hold, and the nostalgia aspect of it...

ill peruse fleabay for film and today i just noticed NEW Kodak roll film with expiration dates of this year through 2020...

i thought Kodak was fully out of the business. are they still making film or did it get outsourced to someone?




  
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Jun 19, 2016 15:12 |  #2

Heya,

Kodak still produces film and ink and stuff. They died in the camera sector and stuff, but, they still exist.

I find FD glass is still too costly, with the mirrorless crowd making those old prices go up due to being able to adapt.

I like old Pentax stuff and M42 mount lenses. Universally adaptable to your current system or with it's original system. I have an old full frame Pentax. You just load film and have it developed (or do that yourself if you're into it).

Film is still alive. There's still a lot of people, young and old to the game, that use film. It's not just nostalgia, it's still a living medium.

It's very popular for photographers to shoot medium format film for example.

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Jun 19, 2016 16:24 as a reply to  @ MalVeauX's post |  #3

one thing that i think most 'togs dont discuss is the gigantic amount of mass, digital possesses...

my 5d3 and 70-200 f2.8 weighs as much as my F-1n, AE-1, 24 f2, 35 f2, 50 f1.8, 85 f1.8 and 200 f2.8. thats not nostalgia but more of a healthy back concern!

i used to do all my own processing. i had access to 2 fully set up darkrooms and our lab in the Air Force and kind of miss all of that. not that i have time for it anymore even if i DID have a darkroom...

glad Kodak is still in the game at least partially...




  
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Jun 19, 2016 16:27 |  #4

Yes, Kodak went through bankruptcy a few years ago, chopped a bunch of stuff up to sell off, and made a complete exit from a few markets. However they are still producing film and related products, and dealing with commercial services.

If you want to work with black and white film then dealing with chemistry is easy enough at home. A changing bag, paterson daylight tank, and a simply setup for chemistry is all you need to shoot and develop for yourself. You can work with colour film, but it is a little more tricky and needs tighter quality control to look decent.

Also if you do want to shoot film these days, then I would suggest considering medium format or larger. The added cost in film isn't that much in medium format, especially if you're shooting a 6x4.5.


I've been shooting a bit of film after getting an old TLR camera a few months ago, and have been enjoying working with it and what it produces. Settling for scanning for the time being, but I'm storing the negatives and will have a body for material to work with when I can get a small darkroom setup going.


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Jun 19, 2016 17:53 |  #5

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...If you want to work with black and white film then dealing with chemistry is easy enough at home. A changing bag, paterson daylight tank, and a simply setup for chemistry is all you need to shoot and develop for yourself. You can work with colour film, but it is a little more tricky and needs tighter quality control to look decent...

yeah, i worked for a newspaper, was my college newspaper editor, worked in a custom lab and did photography in the Air Force for better part of 8 years. the chemistry is a piece of cake. setting up a proper darkroom (with plumbing) is a bit harder...




  
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Jun 19, 2016 18:10 |  #6

Well I just meant that as a reminder that you don't really need a complete and dedicated darkroom to enjoy working with film. Plenty of people do lovely work in their bathrooms, and rig up semi-portable setups for their enlarger and such, or they just skip wet prints and darkroom entirely for changing bags, daylight tanks, and scanned negatives.

Archive your negatives while you shoot, and set aside your very best to print manually once you can get into a space, even if only on a temporary basis every now and then.


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Jun 24, 2016 17:12 |  #7

I shot film years ago, using an A1. Had my own b&w darkroom, developed, printed. It was fun. Life got in the way and 30 years later, I just picked up Mamiya RB67 medium format. Film is very available, as is processing. I am thinking about putting together a b&w darkroom again. It really takes me back to the basics, and I have to pay attention to every part of the process. In the end, it's extremely rewarding. I love it!



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Jun 24, 2016 20:55 |  #8

Yep, all I currently use is Kodak Tri-X, and there a still a few other brands out there as well. I picked up a Nikon 35mm scanner about a year before their discontinuation, and fortunately, it's still kicking. Sometimes I develop the negatives on my own, sometimes send them out. I have never made darkroom prints (switched from digital to film), but that will be my next venture.

I love shooting film, all aspects of the process, and I'll keep doing so as long as the materials are still available.


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Jun 25, 2016 00:24 |  #9

sjones wrote in post #18049224 (external link)
Yep, all I currently use is Kodak Tri-X, and there a still a few other brands out there as well. I picked up a Nikon 35mm scanner about a year before their discontinuation, and fortunately, it's still kicking. Sometimes I develop the negatives on my own, sometimes send them out. I have never made darkroom prints (switched from digital to film), but that will be my next venture.

I love shooting film, all aspects of the process, and I'll keep doing so as long as the materials are still available.


You know you really should try Ilford HP5+ if you are using Tri-X. Although the Kodak film is the one more people seem to know about, personally I always liked the Ilford emulsions better. Saying that, I was shooting with them back in the 70's and 80's, and both films have been reformulated since then. Still I would suggest trying the HP5, and also the ISO125 FP4+, which I think was the nicest general use black and white film you could buy. It's a shame Kodak dropped Plus-X, having two great general use films avilable usually meant you could find one or the other if necessary.

I guess I might have been a little biased, growing up I lived less than 10 miles from Ilford, so they were a local company. I also loved their Cibachrome colour print from transparancy paper, printing from Kodachrome 25 and 64 slides. Those were the days, although I really would not want to go back to them for the bulk of my photographic work.

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Jun 25, 2016 01:48 |  #10

Delta 3200 is the best b&w out there, IMO


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Jun 25, 2016 05:47 |  #11

Ltdave wrote in post #18044150 (external link)
every now and again i get thinking ill pull out the Canon F-1n and FD lenses or my YashicaMat 124G and play around. the whole "physical" results i can hold, and the nostalgia aspect of it...

ill peruse fleabay for film and today i just noticed NEW Kodak roll film with expiration dates of this year through 2020...

i thought Kodak was fully out of the business. are they still making film or did it get outsourced to someone?

Plenty of new film available and plenty of people still using it, in all formats. I just bought a 100ft roll of Delta 100 this week!




  
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Jun 25, 2016 12:42 |  #12

BigAl007 wrote in post #18049326 (external link)
You know you really should try Ilford HP5+ if you are using Tri-X. Although the Kodak film is the one more people seem to know about, personally I always liked the Ilford emulsions better. Saying that, I was shooting with them back in the 70's and 80's, and both films have been reformulated since then. Still I would suggest trying the HP5, and also the ISO125 FP4+, which I think was the nicest general use black and white film you could buy. It's a shame Kodak dropped Plus-X, having two great general use films avilable usually meant you could find one or the other if necessary.

I guess I might have been a little biased, growing up I lived less than 10 miles from Ilford, so they were a local company. I also loved their Cibachrome colour print from transparancy paper, printing from Kodachrome 25 and 64 slides. Those were the days, although I really would not want to go back to them for the bulk of my photographic work.

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When I switched to film in 2008, I lived a 20-minute walk from the Yodobashi camera ‘complex’ in Tokyo’s Shinjuku district. One of their five stores was dedicated to film, so I had the good fortune to try out a variety, including the Ilford HP and Delta films.

The HP5 had a more fluid quality than Tri-X, but ultimately, there was just a little more crude warmth to the Tri-X that I preferred. It’s all pretty subtle, and certainly, if Tri-X goes under, I’ll look back at Ilford.

Although it’s been a few years, I’ll still use Delta 3200 for night shots.


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Jun 25, 2016 14:05 |  #13

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When I switched to film in 2008, I lived a 20-minute walk from the Yodobashi camera ‘complex’ in Tokyo’s Shinjuku district. One of their five stores was dedicated to film, so I had the good fortune to try out a variety, including the Ilford HP and Delta films.

The HP5 had a more fluid quality than Tri-X, but ultimately, there was just a little more crude warmth to the Tri-X that I preferred. It’s all pretty subtle, and certainly, if Tri-X goes under, I’ll look back at Ilford.

Although it’s been a few years, I’ll still use Delta 3200 for night shots.

Ive pushed Tri-X to 3200 with good results




  
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Jun 25, 2016 17:29 |  #14

If I ever decided to shoot film it would be with 6x7 or 4x5 and slide film, I used to develop both negative C41 and slide film E6 and I don't really miss playing with the chemicals., Printing large quantities of photos got to be a pain even though I had a Jobo colorstar for quickly dialing in the enlarger and used drums for printing, my biggest problem was constantly washing and drying the drums.




  
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Jul 02, 2016 10:00 |  #15

I'm 18, got my first camera at 15 (T3i) but I really enjoy shooting film. I started off with my grandfather's Rebel 2000 and Fuji Superia 400 and had a pretty good time, though it really didn't change much for my photography. A few months ago I bought a Pentax Spotmatic, a couple M42 lenses and started shooting Ektar 100; that's when I really fell in love. I took a small break because Walgreens (the only place I had access to) kept screwing up my film. One roll looked great, but the next two rolls looked terrible. I got a car about a month ago so now I've been driving down to an actual lab and the photos look so good. I shot my first two rolls of B&W (HP5+) and now I'm not even shooting digital much at all. There's something so special about black and white film that I just can't get from my 7D.


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